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Zygocolax 'Rhein Blue'

This is a discussion on Zygocolax 'Rhein Blue' within the Orchids of Other Genera IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; Originally Posted by Brutal_Dreamer That is so true. I noticed this also. They do seem ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutal_Dreamer View Post
    That is so true. I noticed this also. They do seem the most 'visually' similar between different crosses. Anyone know?

    Beautiful blooms, Ron. I suppose they are fragrant as well?

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    I don't actually know. You would have to look at some phylogenies and look at the genetic distances, but those will only be based on a few genes.

    It is a likelyhood, but there is no direct link between overall genetic variatoin and morphology - it is only the flower development genes that are in question. Also, certain genes can have big influences with small changes, whereas others would be subtle or unnoticable. Think about human development, if a developmental gene like juvenile growth hormone goes off, huge problems/changes occur. This is because those genes control so many different aspects of development.

    Would you believe that this mushroom



    is more closely related and more similar genetically to this



    than to this


    This is simply from a very small change in a plieotropic (one that controls many aspects of growth) developmental gene. The stalk doesn't develop and it is basically deformed. It has also evolved into a completely separate belowground niche driven by the change.


    Sorry if I am stepping on this thread!

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    #2 is edible how about pic ???

    LOL, you can tell that it is lunchtime here

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    I am surprised to learn it isn't fragrant. Must be the Colax (or Pabstia) side. You may want to check it again, though, because sometimes fragrance is not always immediately apparent after the blooms open.

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    Rob this is my 3rd year for blooming it...still no fragrance, LOL

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    Beautiful lip color and pattern on those guys!

    I am still processing the mushroom information, I had no idea.

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    Ron, maybe you should send it over here... they say 3 is the charmer and if you've struck out, well, you're out and it's time for me to try!!!!!! You know I'll provide a good home and I won't let it forget where it got its start.... LOL

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    Howard you are so crowded in there already...would hate to inconvenience you in such a way, LOL

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    Never you mind about any inconvenience or the living conditions...I'm no slum landlord! I provide 3 squares a day and warm well lit conditions!!!! You've had your chance.... LOL

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    So strange. Is the last picture Amanita muscaria?

    Quote Originally Posted by mycologist View Post
    I don't actually know. You would have to look at some phylogenies and look at the genetic distances, but those will only be based on a few genes.

    It is a likelyhood, but there is no direct link between overall genetic variatoin and morphology - it is only the flower development genes that are in question. Also, certain genes can have big influences with small changes, whereas others would be subtle or unnoticable. Think about human development, if a developmental gene like juvenile growth hormone goes off, huge problems/changes occur. This is because those genes control so many different aspects of development.

    Would you believe that this mushroom



    is more closely related and more similar genetically to this



    than to this


    This is simply from a very small change in a plieotropic (one that controls many aspects of growth) developmental gene. The stalk doesn't develop and it is basically deformed. It has also evolved into a completely separate belowground niche driven by the change.


    Sorry if I am stepping on this thread!

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    Yeah Ron, all three are edible. I'm impressed you knew that.

    Quote Originally Posted by clintdawley View Post
    So strange. Is the last picture Amanita muscaria?

    The last one is Boletus edulus (Ceps, or Porcini)- Mmmmmmm.

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