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Cirrhopetalum zamboangense

This is a discussion on Cirrhopetalum zamboangense within the Orchids of Other Genera IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; Originally Posted by dukejenn This is my first time ever to see this kind of ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukejenn View Post
    This is my first time ever to see this kind of orchid! After seeing all your beautiful posts, I'm wondering where were u able to find these plants? Im also from the Philippines, but I'm in Manila, and searching for native orchids is not easy for me...usually i find the hybrid ones and they are in whopping prices!

    Congratulations for your beautiful collections!
    thanks Jenn,
    im getting plants from local vendors or manila sunday market, that would be your address.

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    Ron, how sure are you that what you have showed us is Cirrhopetlaum zamboangense? From the colouration of the flowers, the length of the peduncle and the attitude of the lateral sepals, it would seem that what you have is C. sibuyanense. If you take a closer look at the labellum and you see a pair of tubercles on the hypochile, then my diagnosis is correct. Cirrhopetalum zamboangense is distinguished by its truncated/toothed column wings (much like C. ochraceum's) and elongated petals.

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    Hmmmm .........

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. suarez View Post
    Ron, how sure are you that what you have showed us is Cirrhopetlaum zamboangense? From the colouration of the flowers, the length of the peduncle and the attitude of the lateral sepals, it would seem that what you have is C. sibuyanense. If you take a closer look at the labellum and you see a pair of tubercles on the hypochile, then my diagnosis is correct. Cirrhopetalum zamboangense is distinguished by its truncated/toothed column wings (much like C. ochraceum's) and elongated petals.
    hi Wally,
    based on all pix from Jim Cootes, my plant matched to his id, in terms of coloration and shape.
    now as you pointed out some other features i took a closer look, also using the type sheets.
    i couldnt see any peduncles on my flower, the column wings are slightly truncated and the petals are elongated enough, in my opinion.

    so, i would say, my plant is C.zamboangense, also recorded from Samar.
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    I'll search for Sunday Markets! thanks a lot! So excited! will start planning for the market trips!

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    Ron, what do you mean your plant does not have a peduncle? An inflorescence is made up of two parts, a peduncle (the elongated portion where one finds the sterile bracts), and the rachis (where the flowers are attached). The peduncles of C. sibuyanense are commonly more than twice the length of the leaves, and are in fact the longest of any known Philippine species and perhaps the longest of all cirrhopetalums, with regards to relative size.

    Here is a photo of my C. sibuyanense for comparison. The base of the labellum have a pair of tubercles (although they aren't apparent here):

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    hi Wally,
    haha, yeah my mistake, i meant tubercles not "peduncle", sorry for that!

    i discussed with Jim again and based on the sheets we have, we are very positive that my plant is C.zamboangense.
    what you mean by "peduncles are twice the length as the leaves"? that would be roughly 10cm?
    i dont know if the tubercles are mentioned in the description, on the drawing its shown only once, and twice absent, so i dont know if it was intended.
    also the lateral sepals on the drawings of C.sibuyanense look more acute on the apex with a somewhat flattened appearance.

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    Hi Ron, what I am curious to know now is how you ended up with the identification that what you have is Cirrhopetalum zamboangense.

    Based from the last photo you have uploaded, the stelids are definitely rounded, whereas it is truncated (squared-off) in C. zamboangense, and with toothed edges. Another character that distinguishes this species is the the very long petals that exceed the space formed by the lateral sepals- clearly in your photo the petals are enclosed within this space.

    If you keep on calling your plant C. zamboangense, then what are you going to call the real C. zamboangense if you do find it?

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    hi Wally,
    perhaps you send me your drawing and/or description of C.zamboangense.

    cheers,

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