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Cymbidium noid

This is a discussion on Cymbidium noid within the Orchids of Other Genera IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; Originally Posted by Dorsetman Rules of latin names... all the endings should match... hence- cymbidium, ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorsetman View Post
    Rules of latin names... all the endings should match... hence- cymbidium, album, ensifolium.... ( but it is a bit more complicated than that - which is why it is sinense, not sinensium ).
    I never knew that.

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    I like the short leaves and green blooms on this cymbidium.

    cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorsetman View Post
    Rules of latin names... all the endings should match... hence- cymbidium, album, ensifolium.... ( but it is a bit more complicated than that - which is why it is sinense, not sinensium ).
    Many thanks Dorsetman for this info.

    Quote Originally Posted by cdayinflorida View Post
    The album name is just a variety, I think. I'm not an expert in cymbidiums. I just collected a few species that will grow well in Florida and that was all because of the fragrance.
    I did find something you might like to read on the matter. I think you can translate it in google.

    SOME THOUGHTS ON ALBESCENT CYMBIDIUMS
    Many thanks to you too cdayinflorida for this useful link

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    To me the form, curve and disposition of leaves; the relatively short but slender spike; the elegant S curve of the lateral petals- all these point to (a white form of) ensifolium, but what the hell- it is lovely. I am getting badly hooked on these oriental Cymbidiums! (If you aren't careful you can end up in the poor house- some of the prices are incredible: £500-£600 for a little division!)

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    I have been doing some homework on Cymbidium species identification, from the Kew monograph I mentioned in an earlier post.
    The genus is divided (by Du Puy and Cribb) into 11 sections, and only two - including Sect. Jensoa which has C.ensifolium as a member - have 4 pollinia.
    Moreover in Sect. Jensoa they are in two unequal pairs. So if and when yours flowers again, look for that. If it is present, then assuming it is a pure species and not a hybrid, then it "must" be one of just 11 possibilities - C. cyperifolium, defoliatum, ensifolium, faberi, goeringii, kanran, munroianum, nanulum, omeiense, qiubense, sinense, and tortisepalum.
    I think I have only ever seen about four of these, and some of them are very distinct in other features - e.g. leaves, and I expect it to be possible to eliminate quite a few , quite quickly.
    Of course it is a long tine since this thread started ! If it flowers again shortly , and you care to correspond with me - send me a pm, I'll try and tease out some further features for you to look at so as to try and get a positive id.

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    Geoff! How great to have your knowledge at our disposal- that list is just the sort of thing I need and value. Many thanks, (o Great One )

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    I think it could be one of the C. ensifolium subsp. ensifolium from Taiwan. There are so many of these line bred alba short varieties with nice sounding Chinese varietal names. I have a few varieties of the subsp. hematodes from India and Thailand and they do vary a lot in leaf length and floral shape.

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