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Catasetum Jumbo Pearl 'Serdang 0000'

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    wow makes me want to have this, awesome colours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazlani View Post
    I have had this problem before. After reading Catasetumian post sometime ago, he recommended that it is good to put spiking Catasetum under full shade to induce male flowers. I have not had this problem again since. Hopefully Ian can chime in if he reads this .
    En Mazlan, (wrote a PM to you a motnh plus ago) the name for this cultivar is Catasetum redland black cherry, the vondor passed me the incomplete name initially.
    Serdang Oo Oo is the variety of the jumbo pearl. catasetum redland black cherry is made from crosses between Catasetum jumbo pearl x Catasetum penang.
    so for you case the correct labeling would be Catasetum jumbo pearl 'serdang oo oo' x Catasetum penang
    by the way, glad to see that they are doing so well


    Quote Originally Posted by catttan View Post
    A beautiful catasetum, Mazlan!!! I don't know what's wrong with mine. It has produced only female flowers the last two seasons. I bought it when it was flowering ...with male flowers! The same thing happened to my pileatum (pink) but the white 'Icy Green' has been producing male flowers all the while.
    concur with what Amey and Mazlan said, you can run this experiment your self, during when you notice the emergence of the spike, try putting it in a shaded area. for my setup, sunlight is less than four hours after that it is totally shaded but bright.
    another reason for why a plant is keeping reproducing female flower it is because of stress (that is what i read from a cultivar sheet) but unless or plant looks awfully not doing well, i don't see this would be the reason.
    what forum members had thought me is to use a aluminium foil to create a shade/umbrella over the spike to induce a male flower, i haven't try this method but i am running a similar experiment using a cone, made up of a paper, and just let the spike wear the cone hat. (feasible for my setup because it is shaded from rain)
    by the way, you mention catasetum pileatum (pink)? is that such cultivar for a pileatum? or is it catasetum pileatum imperiale.
    good luck in your experiment

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    Quote Originally Posted by catasetum-ian View Post
    En Mazlan, (wrote a PM to you a motnh plus ago) the name for this cultivar is Catasetum redland black cherry, the vondor passed me the incomplete name initially.
    Serdang Oo Oo is the variety of the jumbo pearl. catasetum redland black cherry is made from crosses between Catasetum jumbo pearl x Catasetum penang.
    so for you case the correct labeling would be Catasetum jumbo pearl 'serdang oo oo' x Catasetum penang
    by the way, glad to see that they are doing so well




    concur with what Amey and Mazlan said, you can run this experiment your self, during when you notice the emergence of the spike, try putting it in a shaded area. for my setup, sunlight is less than four hours after that it is totally shaded but bright.
    another reason for why a plant is keeping reproducing female flower it is because of stress (that is what i read from a cultivar sheet) but unless or plant looks awfully not doing well, i don't see this would be the reason.
    what forum members had thought me is to use a aluminium foil to create a shade/umbrella over the spike to induce a male flower, i haven't try this method but i am running a similar experiment using a cone, made up of a paper, and just let the spike wear the cone hat. (feasible for my setup because it is shaded from rain)
    by the way, you mention catasetum pileatum (pink)? is that such cultivar for a pileatum? or is it catasetum pileatum imperiale.
    good luck in your experiment
    Thanks Ian for the clarification. Sorry, I totally missed your PM. My bad .

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    Sorry Ian, I don't think it's the var 'Imperiale' . It's light pink - on my tag it just says Cstm pileatum 'pink'. The shape looks exactly like the normal white pileatum ecept for the colour. For all we know it might not be a pileatum but a hybrid of it. I hope this year i wil see some blooms and photograph them. Thanks for the tips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catttan View Post
    Sorry Ian, I don't think it's the var 'Imperiale' . It's light pink - on my tag it just says Cstm pileatum 'pink'. The shape looks exactly like the normal white pileatum ecept for the colour. For all we know it might not be a pileatum but a hybrid of it. I hope this year i wil see some blooms and photograph them. Thanks for the tips.
    definitely looking forward for the day to come
    by the way, i just recall that you have paphiopedilum, try putting the catasetum to the area where you keep the paph the moment you notice spike is forming until the individual flower buds are properly formed. you should get a male flower with this, try with the catasetum that you mention that always gives you the female

    and i also notice sunlight/temperature affect also the color of the female flower, those female flower that are let to developed and bloomed in heavily shaded area tend to have darker coloration tone compare to those left in strong sunlight/high temperature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catasetum-ian View Post
    definitely looking forward for the day to come
    by the way, i just recall that you have paphiopedilum, try putting the catasetum to the area where you keep the paph the moment you notice spike is forming until the individual flower buds are properly formed. you should get a male flower with this, try with the catasetum that you mention that always gives you the female

    and i also notice sunlight/temperature affect also the color of the female flower, those female flower that are let to developed and bloomed in heavily shaded area tend to have darker coloration tone compare to those left in strong sunlight/high temperature.
    Thanks Ian for the suggestions. I actually grow everything, including paphs and phals under the same light conditions as my catts and vandas - one reason why my phals aren't doing so great, and my paphs are not so intensely coloured. But a fortnight ago I put in extra shade cloth after getting criticism from some visitors that my catts and dendrobiums have leaves that are too light green. Well, I hope this won't affect the frequency of blooming.

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    beautiful!! nice growing!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by catttan View Post
    Thanks Ian for the suggestions. I actually grow everything, including paphs and phals under the same light conditions as my catts and vandas - one reason why my phals aren't doing so great, and my paphs are not so intensely coloured. But a fortnight ago I put in extra shade cloth after getting criticism from some visitors that my catts and dendrobiums have leaves that are too light green. Well, I hope this won't affect the frequency of blooming.
    well, time will tell if it affects the blooming..... they always do. anyway it is always our own experience that teaches us the best, i always belief that we do not plan to fail and never be afraid of failure for we learn a great deal from failure. you have no idea the funny things i experimented with my catasetums. hahahaha......

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