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Prosthechea cochleata

This is a discussion on Prosthechea cochleata within the Orchids of Other Genera IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; Name change noted....

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    Name change noted.

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    Gorgeous! This little octopus has been on my wish list ever since I saw it in a book. It'll probably be the next one I acquire! How is it to grow? As I understand it they are great orchids, grow well, and not to high demand. Yours has great color and form! Thanks for posting the pics.

    Orchid nomenclature has to be one of the most dynamically changing of all organisms! I have an encyclopedia of orchid genera that wasn't published too long ago but many names have changed already. Another aspect in the novelty and intrigue of orchids, I guess.

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    Name changes for the sake of it or personal name reputation is becoming a joke. Many aren't changing & ignoring them.

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    I totally agree with Roy. The reason we use nomenclature is to be sure we are all talking the same language. If we (the orchid community) choose to retain the previous nomenclature then the new one is defunct. This is strongly influenced by those of us who have known the plant by the old name for many, many years. Also, I personally feel that things like lumping the majority of the Cattleya alliance under one name can lead to more confusion rather than less. Same with Oncidium. I think the Oncidium genus should have been split rather than having Odontoglossum and others added to it. I must confess that I'm just coming to grips with all of this as I was not growing for about 12 years and there are many genera that I just don't understand or perhaps haven't even come across.

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    i don't really mind if they divide a genus, because some plants have such a noticeable difference in characteristics. like when some oncidiums become tolumnias etc. it helps me understand them, and it shows them as a branch of the family. name changing should be kept to a minimum though. but when they suddenly dump all vandaceous plants back into vanda after centuries of careful observation that divided them into other genera, i just want to scream. i can tell a cattleya from a laelia from a schomburkia from a sphronitis from a brassavola and i am no botanist. i'm not sure what (laziness?) caused early botanists to call every single new-world orchid an epidendrum but that seems foolish to me when they all vary so much. it is only natural to identify and separate them, i just would think it should have occurred to them much sooner, if not at once that an epi reedstem was related distantly to a cockleshell orchid but not the same animal. i have a basic understanding of genetics, and i understand how it can show a relationship between species, but seriously, all orchids will share a large amount of dna (i've read we only have a 3% difference between chimps!) so i'd like a technical explanation of why they are justifying so many plants getting dumped back into one genera. their dna SHOULD be very similar, so what quality are they looking at to 'prove' neofinetias are really vandas as much as a coerulea? there is an astounding difference in every aspect of the physical plants. not only is all this name changing confusing, especially for those of us who are not so new to orchids, but it is counter productive for all when people are trying to learn about orchids or researching cultural information. i have bought orchids having been unable to find info on them, only to later realize they had a former name and there was information. those of us not affiliated with some form of 'orchid authority' are not getting bulletins on all these name changes. i must say, this is the real reason i joined this forum, to get and share information that was becoming confused by name changes. people are more likely here to mention all the former names of an orchid i am looking for info about. and under each name i find a little more info. it's almost like hiding the information from us. i think all this is doing a huge disservice to the hobby. and quite frankly, much of this seems like it will be undone later by someone else. especially the vandas and laelias. it's just such an obvious mistake.

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    I couldn't agree with you more. Fortunately we have the internet now and TONS of pictures to help us identify species. I'm just getting back into this and I'm sure I'll be ticked more than once at these idiots. Fortunately the plants continue to grow and bloom and don't give a crap what we call em. (We always knew they were forgiving little critters.)

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