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Aerides odorata from Palawan and Calayan islands

This is a discussion on Aerides odorata from Palawan and Calayan islands within the Orchids of Other Genera IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; Nelson, Wonderful news about your new piece of the world! This goes without saying, but ...

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    Nelson,

    Wonderful news about your new piece of the world! This goes without saying, but please take photos all along the way. I love the process of creating something new and seeing the choices others make is always interesting and a learning experience.

    About the orchids in the photos: I too like the yelow version in the distance shot, and the Calayan form up close. Both are very beautiful.

    Cheers!
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    This is a new species ! , However it seems that local taxonomist missed the opportunity to describe this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rence View Post
    This is a new species ! , However it seems that local taxonomist missed the opportunity to describe this one.
    There is not enough basis to propose these as species nova... there is a wide range of variability allowed within a taxon to remain un-segregated... I will see if I can get some illustrations of the holotype on this species and designate these specimens... since it is from a different island, variability occurs... color and size are not enough in order for a segregate taxon to be proposed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahon View Post
    There is not enough basis to propose these as species nova... there is a wide range of variability allowed within a taxon to remain un-segregated... I will see if I can get some illustrations of the holotype on this species and designate these specimens... since it is from a different island, variability occurs... color and size are not enough in order for a segregate taxon to be proposed...

    -Pat
    I have seen this orchid several times during our monthly meetings of the POS it was presented several times there were even Thai collectors who came to the meetings and say that this is totally different from the odorata since the color of the flower is different and the size, shape plus the flower structure.

    This orchid is being sold between P150 - P500 pesos in one saturday market (FTI)and even sunday market. We got some flowers preserved by one of our members. Our group want that whoever have the opportunity to named this plant this should be either Aerides palawanensis . Almost all the people who are present last October meeting observed that this is a new species. the reason "why" this orchid is not properly identified by local taxonomist is because of crab mentality! They want a foreigner to be the one who should described this plant rather than Filipinos.

    Thsi orchid was seen way beack in the early 1970's however , they still thought that this was just another odorata subspecies.

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    Perhaps Pat can help you to get the plant reviewed and recognized as a separate species, if that is the case. It would be nice if it is a species to have the name of the island...

    Pat - any suggestions?

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    If you would like, I would be willing to describe the orchid thought to be a distinct species Aerides), as a new species. I would need your help in describing it, such as material, information, etc. The worst that would happen is that the taxon be rejected, but it is still worth a try. I would definitely name it in honor of the island it is found. Rence, if you can contact me at my email, I would appreciate it; mahon.orchid@gmail.com Thanks for your time,

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    PS: Diane, that was a good idea! Thanks!

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    Default I had a chat with the president of the Philippine Orchid Society

    a few hours ago.

    He informed me that the Conservation Group of the Society is studying the plant and may come out with their study in a few months' time.

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