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"It actually IS skin off my nose ...

This is a discussion on "It actually IS skin off my nose ... within the The Outback Terrace Bar forums, part of the Land Plants category; and the rest of me too, truth be told", said the snake. Yeah, "no skin ...

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    Default "It actually IS skin off my nose ...

    and the rest of me too, truth be told", said the snake. Yeah, "no skin off my nose" is really, really old school, but hey, that's just the way I roll. (Plus it was very fitting for the topic at hand.)

    Snakes often seem to be sneaky about ecdysis (shedding). Unless there are issues, they seem to like to wait until no one is looking before they "undress". Then, just like a teenager, they leave their discarded "clothes" lying around until the "maid service" comes through to pick it up. Well the other day I happened to catch Osiris in the beginning stages of shedding and it dawned on my that I should take a pic while the getting was good.

    For anyone who might be unfamiliar with the whole process, if conditions are right, the skin is sloughed off all in one piece. Starting at the head the skin is peeled back (usually by rubbing the nose against a rough surface). The snake then slithers out of the old skin. The resulting shed is inside out, not unlike taking off a t-shirt.

    So here you go:

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    You can see his tail inside the "tube" of the old skin that has already been peeled back

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    Now that is interesting! What species is this one and does it mind being handled?

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    I would be interested in the answers to Mitch's questions and will also ask if the markings on Osirus ( I like that name) will get darker over time. AL

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    That is really cool. I have found many snake skins around our little pond, but never seen one coming off of a snake like this. Thanks for posting this.

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    Beautiful ! I always wanted a pet python and a pet crocodile, but my parents would not allow it LOL ! I once saw a snake at our farm house, it had shed its skin along a thorny bush, it was able to get rid of scales on its eyes, they looked white, hence it was an easy target for our cat who finally killed it after playing with it for a while.

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    Look like constrictor type and is not poisonous I'm sure this guy very itchy during the process shedding.Zain

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    Corn snake? Looks like a good clean shed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madphrag View Post
    Now that is interesting! What species is this one and does it mind being handled?
    Osiris is a rat snake (Elaphe obsoleta) or corn snake (Elaphe guttata) or very likely a hybrid between the two. The distinction gets very blurry from the literature I've read -- especially as taxonomists are looking at shaking up the taxonomy here too -- and the two are extensively hybridized in the pet trade to further complicate matters.

    Most captive bred corn/rat snakes are very docile (which makes them very popular in the pet trade) and Osiris is no exception. He is very handlable and does not startle easily.


    Quote Originally Posted by orchidsal View Post
    I would be interested in the answers to Mitch's questions and will also ask if the markings on Osirus ( I like that name) (Thanks ) will get darker over time. AL
    No, the markings you can see on the new skin are pretty much as dark as he will get. Whether color can be influenced by diet I do not know. He is one of the many albino morphs that are available in the hobby.

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    Beautiful ! I always wanted a pet python and a pet crocodile, but my parents would not allow it LOL ! I once saw a snake at our farm house, it had shed its skin along a thorny bush, it was unable to get rid of scales on its eyes, they looked white, hence it was an easy target for our cat who finally killed it after playing with it for a while.
    Parents can be SOOOOOOO unreasonable. I aways try to check that the brille (the transparent scale which covers each eye) is shed during a molt. If they fail to do so, as you noted Amey, the snake's ability to see is greatly compromised.

    Quote Originally Posted by zainal abidin View Post
    Look like constrictor type and is not poisonous I'm sure this guy very itchy during the process shedding.Zain
    Corn/rat snakes are indeed constrictors and are neither venomous nor poisonous. (Just as a minor point: venom refers to a harmful secretion delivered to a target by biting or stinging; poison refers to dangerous substances absorbed directly through the skin or by inhalation, or ingestion, )

    In the wild their natural prey includes small rats, mice, small birds, frogs, small fish, and reptiles. Osiris doesn't get that varied a diet and must settle for thawed mice.

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    Snakes!! Definitely not my favourite..........lol.

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