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This is a discussion on Noid within the Paphiopedilum, Phragmipedium, Cypripedium IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; Here's another for the paph buffs to figure out the name of... I'm not sure ...

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    Here's another for the paph buffs to figure out the name of... I'm not sure of my guesses so suggestions are greatly appreciated. Oh, and the leaves are not mottled or at least are so very very faint, and there is another bud behind this flower.

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    looks like a dead ringer for a coryopedilum x cochlopetalum...now which ones?

    For the coryo parent, I'd have to list glanduliferum as the top choice, unless you were to tell me the flower is like 8" across if you spread the petals, in which case it might be roths. other coryos are possibilities too: adductum has been used by Antec as a parent of Bianka (x glaucophyllum), maybe also wilhelminiae, especially if you tell me the plant clumps like a maniac.

    The cochlo parent is most likely glaucophyllum, due to the pink pouch. glauco var. moquettianum also has a pink pouch, but has a much less veined dorsal. it could still be a liemianum or a chamberlainianum though.

    My guess is glanduliferum x glaucophyllum (Jogjae), although I don't think you can know the identity with certainty.

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    Jason, you're almost as scary as Sue!

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    Hi Jason,

    The petals from tip to tip is 6.5 inches. The dorsal is 1.5 inches when flat. The length from the top of the dorsal to the bottom of the pouch is 3.5 inches and two of that is the length of the pouch.

    The plant consists of one old unflowered growth, the flowering growth, and two new growths, so I guess that isn't really clumping.

    I got to the same subgenus but got stuck with the actual parents. Out of interest, what got you to glanduliferum? I was thinking philippinense. And then the cochlo, I thought was the chamberlainianum because of the pink pouch too hehehe, but also because the dorsal seems to have more brown and veining in the lower part. SO, I ended up with Paph Helvetia. But the picture of Helvetia in Antec doesn't look like my plant

    Well, I have now spoken to the guy who sold me the plant and he is going to ask the breeder what it is. There is a tag with the number C005 on it so hopefully this will lead us to the correct ID.

    Thanks for the suggestions. I always find it quite fun to try and figure out the parentage of noids... so hope that it wasn't found to be an annoying task.

    Cheers
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    I thought it wasn't as likely to be phil because of the relatively large dorsal and the background color. phil has a smallish dorsal (for a coryo) and the background is white; this one is very yellow.

    When I see pink pouch, I first think of moquettianum, but there are a lot of cochlos that could give you pinkish pouches. If it's really bubble-gum pink though, I'd have to bet on moquettianum (which the RHS does not recognize as a species, but as a form of glaucophyllum).

    I guess it could also be a Bianka (adductum x glaucophyllum); antec made a cross that has made its way around the paph circles, and some of them look similar to your pic.

    I like guessing noIDs, although most of the time you can't say for sure. It would be nice to get a definitive grex name though in this case.

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    Hi All,

    I will have to definitely take the dunces hat for this one.

    Got a reply back from the original breeder of this plant and as it turns out.. the C005 is actually "COOS".

    Yep the NOID was named all along and it is Paph Coos (glanduliferum x chamberlainianum). So well done with the glanduliferum call Jason!

    So. I'm going back to my hole under the rock now, and thanks again for the suggestions.

    Cheers
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    cool. always nice to have an ID on a plant.

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    Hi Y'all

    Thought I'd post an update to this seeing as it is one of the few I have blooming at the moment... opened Sunday, so prolly still has some developing to do...

    Paphiopedilum Coos



    Looks like three buds but I'm not sure how it will behave... ie will it all open together like it's glanduliferum parent or it's chamberlainianum parent.
    Either way, I hope it is still in a decent nick when my society meeting is on.

    Thanks for looking.

    Cheers
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    Good luck with it, Tim-O, re: the timing of the bloom. Still, it's a striking flower!

    Julie

    PS - I'll always think of it as 'C005'

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    Funny name for a paph or anything for the matter! COOS ... COOS ... COOS ... (A few chuckles ...)
    Nice paph, Tim!
    Cheers! Hoa.

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