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Is this one ready for the trash can ?

This is a discussion on Is this one ready for the trash can ? within the Paphiopedilum, Phragmipedium, Cypripedium IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; What a dog of a paph...got to be the ugliest one I have ever seen,,,,,plus ...

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    Unhappy Is this one ready for the trash can ?

    What a dog of a paph...got to be the ugliest one I have ever seen,,,,,plus it has horrible form ! It is a first blooming.
    The x is paph Dark Spell x paph John Jack. I tried the trick mentioned of tipping the pot to get the dorsal to raise ,and it worked somewhat, but as soon as the pot was straightened, the dorsal dropped again ! I photographed it tipped back...plus, how in the world do you get a picture of a black paph ? Question 2? Will this impove with the next blooming or should I forget it ?
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    It's sooo dark! That's kinda cool. That alone is worth cutting a bit of slack.

    My understanding is that first blooms can often be sub-optimal and that you should give the guy another chance or two before you salad-shoot. I will defer to the slipper gurus, however, who know vast amounts more than me.

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    I actually think that is really cool! I love the dark maroon coloring. Keep it growing! I'm sure there is a paph. lover who'd trade for it.... I don't care for paphs/phrags much, only have one paph. sp. and no phrags, but I really do like the color.


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    I would not toss it out . An older wiser gentleman in our society has been growing for over 50years . Keeps trying to teach us newer members to this hobby that first blooms will always look different than when the plant matures. He puts us all in shock when he just snips off new flowers and tosses them or gives the flower to one of us . He said at home in his greenhouse when he sees a spike forming on a new plant he just pinches it off instad of letting it bloom because he says the plant is wasting energy trying to bloom flowers that aren't up to par . So I'm sure your next bloom on this plant provided you grow it well will surprise you. Then there 's always after a few bloomings a flower that isn't worth growing then compost it.. Ray

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    Ray, great point--thanks for bringing that up. Plants expend a *lot* of energy putting up a spike, and since we're growers and not florists, the plant's the thing. If it even remotely looks like the spike is taxing the plant, (suddenly shriveled pBulbs, suddenly yellowing and dropping leaves) cut the spike and save the plant. Many *will* "bloom themselves to death."

    Gilda, that's the darkest vini I've ever seen, seriously. Keep it and grow it--form will smooth out and it won't look so much like a raisin with ears.

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    Gilda, you know what they say, "beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder"... and frankly I'm loving that one!!! It is so dark and then the green in the middle, it looks like "the light at the end of the tunnel". And I've heard ppl doing crazy stuff like getting rid of first spikes too, so like Jules, Ray and Louis said, "give it another go, mate"!
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    LOL, Gilda!

    If nothing else, you know where to send it if you simply can't stand waiting for the next rebloom!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lja
    Gilda, that's the darkest vini I've ever seen, seriously. Keep it and grow it--form will smooth out and it won't look so much like a raisin with ears.
    LOL A raisin with ears ! Good ananlogy Louis ! OK, I will give it another blooming or two....but I am not pinching this bloom off...ugly or not ,blooms are scarce this time of the year ! It does have beautiful mottled leaves.

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    I really like it , Piper changed her mind... lolol ,so you can send it to me Gin

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    I assume you're commenting on the twisted petals. some of the vinis are so heavily warted that the petals don't straighten out fully. example:

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    note the kinked petals. some will do this persistently, especially the darkest vinis.

    Tipping the pot forward only works if you keep it like that for at least 2-3 days after the bud fully opens. If you move it before that, the bud hasn't "set" into its final position yet and the dorsal will flop right back, into its natural state. (Water in the pouch will cause flowers to rot, and paphs will almost always position their dorsals as "lids").

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