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Paph liemianum x spicerianum

This is a discussion on Paph liemianum x spicerianum within the Paphiopedilum, Phragmipedium, Cypripedium IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; It's quite amazing that this is not a registered cross , since both of the ...

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    It's quite amazing that this is not a registered cross , since both of the species have been around for a long time - liemannianum "only" since 1982 ( although probably grown under the name of chamberlainianum before that - chamberlainianum goes back to 1895 . Spicerianum is also an old species - 19th century. There are several other very similar species in this liemanianum group ,e.g.as moquettianum and victoria-reginae and hence similar hybrids have been registered under many names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorsetman View Post
    It's quite amazing that this is not a registered cross , since both of the species have been around for a long time - liemannianum "only" since 1982 ( although probably grown under the name of chamberlainianum before that - chamberlainianum goes back to 1895 . Spicerianum is also an old species - 19th century. There are several other very similar species in this liemanianum group ,e.g.as moquettianum and victoria-reginae and hence similar hybrids have been registered under many names.
    Yet another opportunity for me to reach conclusions, only to have them footnoted by so many exceptions as to make said conclusions inconclusive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mauraec View Post
    I just got introduced to Paph spicerianum and Paph liemianum during my last visits to the conservatory - the liemianum took my breath away, and the spicerianm had me puzzled for some time - it's such an odd little creature - but the cross is fabulous, Yew. I have around 75 orchids now and spend at least 6 or 7 hours a day watering, fertilizing, leaching, inspecting, treating the ones that need it, grooming, not to mention trying to keep up with photo records - you seem to have so many - and such different ones. How do you bloom them so beautifully without having the caretaking take over your entire life?

    I need some way to streamline my orchid routine and I just don't know where to start. Any suggestions? Inspirations? Cautions????
    I dont have that many orchids ,, only about 300, and grow them outdoors 24/7 under 50 percent shade - all under what is termed as cattleya conditions. Those that cannot survive(and there have been many) mainly phals and some oncidinae die and I avoid these . It's a case of trial and error and learning from others too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catttan View Post
    I dont have that many orchids ,, only about 300, and grow them outdoors 24/7 under 50 percent shade - all under what is termed as cattleya conditions. Those that cannot survive(and there have been many) mainly phals and some oncidinae die and I avoid these . It's a case of trial and error and learning from others too.


    I guess I must be at the point where I should be looking for common themes running through my collection - i.e. - which ones don't seem to do well, which have done better when moved further into the light, or back from it, which I seem to overwater, and which I seem to underwater (oh,no - that would be my whole collection!) Problem is, I still often buy my orchids on a "see-it-want-it-need-it" basis. I have quite a few cattleyas that I KNOW aren't getting enough light right now, but they live outside come late February, where they get plenty of light, and I'm trying to coax them through the "dark days" of winter. I have a number of auxiliary growlights - nothing HID - and run humidifiers and small fans constantly - something I don't have to do when the weather turns more seasonable. My 4 cyms, on the other hand, including one warmth-tolerant one, live almost 24/7 outside, as it seldom goes below 35F here, and they are happy. I get the feeling the others are just waiting to go outside - except for my paphs which are sulking under grow lights right now. Maybe I should learn how to make silk orchids - it would probably take less time! (just kidding - ugh!).

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    wow, that pouch makes me want to eat it :-)

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    That's a lovely slipper, Yew. I don't have any at the moment, but would not mind having that one! You always seem to have the best/prettiest ones...Betty :-)

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    The distinct vertical center line on the dorsal from spicerianum is intact. Very nice hybrid, Yew.
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    Thanks everyone for the nice comments. This second rebloom does look better than the first time.

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