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Phrag. mem. Dick Clements

This is a discussion on Phrag. mem. Dick Clements within the Paphiopedilum, Phragmipedium, Cypripedium IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; Originally Posted by k_andreev sweet color.congratulation for the bloom. Originally Posted by cakedaddy Lovely bloom ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by k_andreev View Post
    sweet color.congratulation for the bloom.
    Quote Originally Posted by cakedaddy View Post
    Lovely bloom there! I like the deep color.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kmac View Post
    Love the gorgeous color!
    Thanks everyone. I was expecting the colour to be a more vivid red. I don't know what the usual colour is but on the website that this one came from I am sure that it was a more vibrant colour but I am not about to complain I just love it

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    Phragmipedium schlimii x besseae rather than dick clems i think by that colour. I know the place where they have had a bit of a mix up with deflasking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opaline View Post
    Phragmipedium schlimii x besseae rather than dick clems i think by that colour. I know the place where they have had a bit of a mix up with deflasking.

    Hummph, I don't know whether the colour is as accurate in my pics as it is in real life but I wonder...

    What is a p. schlimii and a besseae cross called then?

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    Wonderful, pink slipper orchid. Thanks so much for the progression shots from but to fully open bloom. Such a delightful phragmipedium orchid bloom!

    cheers,
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    General theory gone public - sent you a pm susie as vendor info cant be stated for public view but curious and quite sure of your source, but the reason for my statement i can corroborate with you on your photo as my observation/ experience was the same and the D.clems should take from the one parentage of Bessae its scarlet red colour but not sure with other parent. As to the hybrid with inheritance genes from Schl. aswell as Bess the majority are / have been advertised as bloom colour from yours also mine. I purchased the D.clems to grow alongside my bess purely out of curiousity, a visual observation experiment if you like.

    Quite limited info in terms of researching this but a bit of surfing enquiring and reading backs up the 'Mystery'??if any , or just variables (not out the realms) and even the usage of superthrive overdosing has been blamed for deformed flowers but also genetic mutations?

    I remember when you posted your new acquisition of 3 phrags blooming size or just bloomed and glad you came back.

    Very interested in seeing if other members can elaborate on this mystery or add something, facts and fiction and opinions have saturated yet another issue and I cant argue for or against. Vendor info/ statement and results have somewhat attracted suspicion though.

    Will include link to a phrag like yours and mine thats in bloom and sits next to the true simplistic beauty of Bessae on bloom. Have noticed a few scandals and controversys arise latter 2011 2012 especially when they are directly/ indirectly connected to a popular auction sight as a selling tool. Freedom of expressing theories and opinions such as this generate some quite hostile argumentative threads on some forums and they love to open those 'can of worms'. OT definetly the best one.

    Proof or not, dismissed by purists or not, true/false accusations or not, the phrag still has a beautiful flower though! and if an orchid thrives???? i love it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by opaline View Post

    Proof or not, dismissed by purists or not, true/false accusations or not, the phrag still has a beautiful flower though! and if an orchid thrives???? i love it!
    Couldn't agre more opaline! I love the bloom. I didn't really want this when I ordered it but it was cheap and I just thought why not? I prefer the long petaled ones and I got a Tall Tails and a P.E.C - although he actually sent me a Living Fire as he had run out of PEC's, and when I saw the vibrant red of it I just thought that it looked nice. I still think it looks nice but now it looks even nicer as it is in bloom in my front room!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susie11 View Post
    Thanks everyone. I was expecting the colour to be a more vivid red. I don't know what the usual colour is
    web colours must be taken with a pinch of salt ! Not that anyone ( imagine that word underlined) would deliberately improve a colour - no no , not even a professional trying to sell his plants.
    But if you want to get a precise colour, you must start by calibrating your monitor every week, and then use some quite complicated stuff in reading light temperature when you take the piccy (yes it does have a temperature ! ) and adjusting the expressed light on via e.g. Photoshop. Even if you do all that ( or without all that) - if you have Photoshop, try this ;load the image on the screen, then < Control J/> then in layers select <multiply> - you will see the most wonderful saturated colour version - maybe a bit too dark, but then adjust opacity downwards - until just right - i.e. just the version you want... Is it trrue ? but unless you lend me your eyes, I don't know whether I am seeing what you see anyway !
    Or just stick with the pinch of salt..

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    I only have a camera phone so I wouldn't be surprised if it is just that as to why my pics look different from the advert online. I will have to get a grown up camera soon though.

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    Dorsetman what do you do when a whole group of orchids are malformed? Would you trash them or try blooming one more time. Lovely phrag
    susie11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarbaraL View Post
    Dorsetman what do you do when a whole group of orchids are malformed? Would you trash them or try blooming one more time. Lovely phrag
    susie11.
    If the whole flask is bad- then the whole flask has to be junked.
    I have a large collection. From time-to-time plants ( one or many ! ) suffer from some reason or other -mistakes made, pets building up un-noticed especially if I have been away, pre-occupied with other matters or whatever. Then there is a tendency not to throw away the poor plants but keep them and grow them until they improve. But a really out of sorts plant can take 5, 7 or even more years to get back into good condition. ( Did you ever hear about my Paph Susan Booth, which got frosted when a thermostat failed ? It was the only paph in a small house being used for phallies, and run at a higher temp. than normal for paphs - thats why it was the only paph to suffer - and also the phallies !. That was in 1994. I am still growing it - it was a 10 inch pot of a dozen growths ... still waiting for it to get up to flowering size again.. So periodically when Ido a complete overhaul, and handle every plant and look at them criticall y, I just harden my resolve and chuck out the poor ones. Its the most rapid way I know of improving the collection enormously ! Maybe Susan Booth gets the boot next time !.

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