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help with paphi

This is a discussion on help with paphi within the Paphiopedilum, Phragmipedium, Cypripedium IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; Hi! I got these paphi last mar 3. argus (pic attached) on top left with ...

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    Hi!
    I got these paphi last mar 3.
    argus (pic attached) on top left with bloom
    ciliolare (pic attached) on top right with full bud now in bloom
    2 Hennisianums on lower pots

    The medium I put on the three containers is mainly charcoal. I water them everyday. Charcoal tends to dry up fast. Is it so fast that it can't wait to be watered the next day, I don't know, but would appreciate some comments. Are my plants okay or not moist enough?

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    I have never raised any Paphs of any kind in straight charcol. I guess it is okay if you don't mind watering every day, but once your collection grows that will be a problem. I have mine in a couple of different medias - small bark and perlite, small and medium bark with small charcol, and medium bark with about 15% cut sphaghum mixed in. (Phrags seem to like the sphaghum). I have one where I am experimenting with bark, CHC and leica mix.

    So- Paph gurus out there - - what do you say?


    PS - I really like that ciliolare. Where did you find it?

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    I think the plant on the lower right has had some watering issues. Notice the folds that run along two of the leaves? That's known as pleating and orchids will do that if they're not getting enough water as the leaves develop. It never goes away, even if you correct the watering problem. So it could have been a past issue, but at some point it wasn't getting enough.

    Otherwise the plants appear to be healthy. It's hard to say for sure without examining the roots.

    I grow all my paphs in New Zealand sphagnum moss. With it I can guage the moisture in the pot much more precisely than I can with bark. I need to repot once a year, but I don't mind the chance to check the roots and make sure they're happy.

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    it's very important to not judge growing conditions with regards to media purely by what material you're using!

    You have to think about how much you water... if you like to water everyday and can sustain this behaviour, then I see no problem with using something that dries out really fast.

    I have resorted to using plain bark as a media. Reasons:-
    1. it is uncomplicated, I only need one type of material.
    2. It dries up fairly quickly so my regime of watering every two or three days means that my orchids aren't drying out too much or staying wet too long.
    3. i prefer the look of it to say sphagnum moss or coco fiber... but others may prefer those...

    so remember, think about how you water and then work out what material is best to use.

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    Ewbie, when you got your Paphs, were they originally potted in charcoal, or bareroot? Maybe you should consider changing the medium into something that can retain more water, or charcoal in finer grade not those big chunks. Dry season is on now in PI and I bet your Paph in large charcoal are going to be very thirsty. You can also try putting a layer of moss on top of the charcoal to help keep moisture, you can always remove it when the wet season arrive.

    I particularly like the green moss they commonly use in Philippines. Its unlike the sphagnum moss that absorb and retain water like a sponge. The green moss is springy and dries more quicker than sphagnum. Maybe you should consider using it for your Paph. instead of charcoal.

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    The one on top left, I got it as is. Didn't repot anymore coz it's stable already and the medium is in fir bark. The one on top right comes with the black plastic bag or pot(?) and the storekeeper said if I transfer it in a pot I can use charcoal as medium. While the lower ones are in clay pot with a little charcoal. Roots are exposed and super moist. Storekeeper says can put charcoal as medium. These three types, I got it from different stores in an orchid show.

    Tanya, regarding the green moss, is that also the live moss? I only see sphagnum(dry) which is color yellow and the live moss(wet). I think I still have the sphagnum(dry). I bought before for my dendrob but removed it coz can't see inside if too much watering already.

    I'll try to post picture of the roots tomorrow. Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane
    I guess it is okay if you don't mind watering every day, but once your collection grows that will be a problem.
    PS - I really like that ciliolare. Where did you find it?
    Don't worry, Diane. I still have to prove I could grow orchids before buying more. My hubby is already complaining. So please please, please, be patient with my questions.

    Oh and also paphi is not that common in our country and too warm for it. I think, only a few could really survive in PI.

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    I grow all my paphs in clay pots with a mix of charcoal, lava and perilite. During winter I only have to water every week but right now it is getting hot and I'm watering every 2-3 days. You have to take all the conditions into consideration. I also repot every year if I can remember.

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    nice paphs, not commonly seen anymore. very few people use straight charcoal because you have to water it so often. maybe even more than once a day in the summer.

    personally I use semi-hydro pellets, but I used to use a coconut husk based mix. it seems that everybody has their own voodoo recipe for paph mix.

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    Help! The spot seems to be growing. What is it? Any advice?
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