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Phrag IQ Triple Threat!!!

This is a discussion on Phrag IQ Triple Threat!!! within the Paphiopedilum, Phragmipedium, Cypripedium IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; Jason! (Jmoney) Of course!! as the resident phrag guru we all expect great things from ...

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    Default The Winner is.......

    Jason! (Jmoney) Of course!! as the resident phrag guru we all expect great things from him. Second was Tim who got 2 right the first try and then got the third. Julie was third.

    the plants are:

    The first one is Penns Creek Cascade (Grande x wallisii), very close to Giganteum but lighter in color.

    The middle one is Wossner Supergrand (longifolium x warscewiczianum.)

    The third one is Giganteum (Grande x caudatum)... That was tricky - the Grandparent part - what are the parents of Grande????(longifolium x caudatum) So Giganteum is ((longifolium x caudatum) x caudatum)).

    Hope everyone enjoyed watching or participating!

    PS the Penns Creek Cascade petals are now 10", the Supergrand is holding at 9", and the Giganteum is at 12"

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    LOL - She's so polite. I was DFL. But that's ok! It was fun.

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    I almost wanted to participate but my work has occupied me a lot lately. I have the Phrag. Grande and from its previous bloomings, the petals were never that long. As such, that info combined with the hints, it is clear that #1 and #3 are back-crosses to one of the long petal parents or a very similar species. The problem I had was I could not tell with definite certainty, which species, wallisii, caudatum or the warscewiczianum as the other parent for which plant. But it was fun to watch and ponder and stick my nose in now and then ... Hehehhehe
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    nice quiz! and great selection of long-petalled hybrids! there is such variability among even Grande, with some clones with short 7-9" petals (I had one of these), and a few like the awarded 'Maybrook' clone with petals over 16-18"! and the color of course runs the gamut--although your very dark "old-time" Grandes were probably made with warscewiczianum, a cross now shamelessly named wossner supergrande (personalized epithets being a topic for another discussion).

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    I was sure her Wossner Supergrande was a Red Lightning. What are the differences between them, Jason?

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    Wossner Supergrande is like a dark dark Grande, long thin petals that hang pretty much straight down. Red Lightning is sargentianum x warscewiczianum, so the petals will be shorter from the sargentianum, perhaps a little redder, and might hang at a little bit of an angle

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    Cool - thanks!

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    they are continuing to do well, 2 of the 3 have second blossoms open, and the Penns Creek has a full bud. Giganteum is holding at 12" petal length. The Wosnner Supergrand is, I guess, done at 9". and the Penns Creek Cascade is 12.5" and still growing....


    Oh - and an update on the Lyro Blackhawk I wish all my plants would progress this quickly!

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    Wahoo, Diane! A real slipper show going on at your place!

    Mine are thinking about what they want to do, and haven't made any decisions yet.

    Keep us posted on Lyro! Oh...and please post updated pics when the 'hair' stops growing on your Phrags.

    Julie

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    WOW! The Blackhawk is beautiful!! Looking forward to the bloom!

    Cheers!
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