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Paph IQ Test

This is a discussion on Paph IQ Test within the Paphiopedilum, Phragmipedium, Cypripedium IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; Great guess, Sarah! Liemianum is of the sub-genus Cochlopetalum, of the Paph. genus. The flowers ...

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    Great guess, Sarah!

    Liemianum is of the sub-genus Cochlopetalum, of the Paph. genus. The flowers are quite similar and even the expert taxonomists don't agree on all the species and what to call them.

    While liemianum isn't a parent in this cross, another Cochlo is, and to my eye is a near cousin of liemianum. Jason can explain the differences to us when we're finished.

    That's where the multi-floral genes come from. For the other parent, focus on a pink pouch (aka lip.) It's not another Cochlo parent - search the other sub-genera...

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    Hey, why am I out!? I just got (back) here!
    Who you callin' a Paph-head?
    I ain't no stinkin' Paph-head!!

    These ones w/ cochlos in them can be tricky tho....

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    You're a pro, Heather! Paph-head, Phrag-head...they both fit...

    But feel free to play - only PM me your guess. This was intended for newbies to Paphs, not newbies to the forum, and you're no Paph newbie!

    Welcome back, by the way!

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    Hmm...paph.victoria-mariae is in that Cochlo group, and looks similar to the paph.liemianum. Is that one of the parents?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarah
    Hmm...paph.victoria-mariae is in that Cochlo group, and looks similar to the paph.liemianum. Is that one of the parents?
    I love victoria-mariae, and it's not commonly seen (I've just purchased a seedling and am very excited to be getting one!) ...but she's not it.

    I think the cochlo parent is the most difficult, so I'll tell you it's chamberlainianum (aka victoria-regina.)

    You're doing well! Now you'll need to find the other parent. Work with the pink lip - it will guide you!

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    Is one parent Victoria Village?
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    Julie,
    The orchid species web site is amazing - so much information. But, using the ladyslipper web site ( which is way cool as well ) my search for the other parent comes up with this:
    Since Paph. victoria-reginae is one parent, and since it is highly marked with stripes and warts and greens and reds - the other parent must be "quieter" to give that beautiful pink offspring.

    Brachypetalum group - petals are not the right shape
    Pardalopetalum - no pink pouches
    Corypetalum - petals all too long
    Barbata - Paph.dayanum is close, but not multi-floral
    Paphiopedilum - Paph.henryanum is a choice, but it has spots and you have enough pattern.

    So, I'm going to go with quiet little Paph. delenatii from the Pardalopetalum subgenera - it has the white coloring your paph needs, and a pink pouch. Probably not Orchid breeding logic, but what the hey.

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    Sarah,
    What's up with the ? You are doing so well!!! Hehehhehhe!!!

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    Yes, Cin, one parent is Victoria Village (where is that, anyway?) The other is...Victoria's Secret. Thanks for playing!

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    Well, Sarah, for all that waving your boxers around on a stick, you've got it!

    I thought this would be more straight forward, but I forgot how confusing Cochlopetalum taxonomy can be. (To all except Jason, anyway!)

    This is a Paph Dellaina, a cross of P. chamberlainianum (aka. P. victoria-regina) x P. delenatii.

    Nice job, Sarah! We'll be looking for you in the next IQ test!

    Julie

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