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Paph IQ Test

This is a discussion on Paph IQ Test within the Paphiopedilum, Phragmipedium, Cypripedium IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; delenatii is considered a Parvisepalum. It was for many years lumped together with the Brachypetalums ...

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    delenatii is considered a Parvisepalum. It was for many years lumped together with the Brachypetalums (i.e. bellatulum, concolor, niveum etc) but as kind of an outsider--didn't quite fit the mold. When they discovered all those spectacular new parvis in the Yunnan province of China (armeniacum, micranthum, malipoense, etc), then all of a sudden the delenatii that had been in cultivation for 80 years had a home. delenatii, btw, is very frequently bifloral with good culture, and a few may even throw 3 flowers on a single spike.

    the Cochlopetalums are the sequential-blooming paphs, with mature plants being almost everblooming. even a first bloom seedling can give you upwards of 10 blooms on a spike, and sometimes it is even necessary to cut the spike so that the plant doesn't bloom itself to death. the species are usually quite distinctive...

    primulinum fma. primulinum and fma. purpurescens: usually the green-and-white "alba" form is discovered later on but with this species the green form was actually described first (fma. primulinum). later on the normal colored form (purpurescens) was found. for this species, actually, it seems that the green-and-white form is much more common in nature than in other species, where it is a rare find. this species produces the smallest flowers.

    glaucophyllum and moquettianum: it isn't clear if moquettianum is actually a separate species, it looks similar to glaucophyllum but has larger flowers, with less striping in the dorsal and a bubble gum pink pouch. right now moquettianum is treated as a variety of glaucophyllum...but stay tuned.

    chamberlainianum (victoria-regina), and var. kalinae: richly-colored species. this kalinae thing was described more recently as even darker than the norm, unclear now if it's a real variety, or a separate species. still considered a variety right now I think.

    liemianum: jade green dorsal, well-colored blooms. if memory serves me correct this was in the past considered a variety of chamberlainianum.

    victoria-mariae: distinctive blooms, not very common in cultivation


    Hybrids between delenatii and any of these cochlopetalums are very similar--pink ruffled blooms, and an unlabeled plant is almost impossible to definitively ID. (A few of the delenatii x primulinum are actually white). When you cross the cochlos to other things, i.e. roths, the hybrids are actually quite distinctive. i.e. Prime Child, Transvaal, Vanguard are fairly easy to distinguish.

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    Thanks, Jason!

    These IQ tests are great because of the learning, as well as the fun! Hoa's right - great idea, Diane!

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    Thanks, Jason!
    Good reading!!! I thoroughly enjoy it.
    Exactly as said, I think it could be hard to distinguish delenatti crosses with one of those cochlo species. For example, delenatti crosses with chamberlainianum and glaucophyllum, they look very similar. Any insight on that?

    BTW, Sarah, congratulations on getting it right! As you realized, in your first guess, you almost nailed down one of the parents!

    Cheers. Hoa.

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    Nice Photo and flower. I knew it wasn't paph. liemianum because the dorsal sepal edge doesn't have the white edge in the hybrid.

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    Wow - one of my darts hit the board

    As someone fairly new to orchids, and VERY new to paphs, I learned alot just looking up all the possibilities. On the ladyslipper site you lead us to I even saw some I would really like to have! what a surprise...

    Thank Julie, that was fun and low stress since it was just for those of us in the dark

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    LOL, Sarah - we're all in the dark! Some have brighter seats than others...

    Julie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piper
    LOL, Sarah - we're all in the dark! Some have brighter seats than others...
    what??? some have seats??? oh... precious...

    Well done Sarah!

    It can be quite daunting at the start, trying to learn about all the different species plants and then compound that with the hybrids... aaaargh!!!

    Jason, Paph moquettianum is now being accepted by the RHS for registration, so maybe that's the start of that one being recognised as it's own species.

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    tim, is that confirmed that moquettianum is an "RHS species"? on their grex website it's not yet listed as an entity.

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    hmm... just had a nosey around and found out that...

    Paph moquettianum is recognised as a sub-species... so even though it is possible to register a new name for hybrids using this variety of glaucophyllum, it isn't quite a fully fledged species yet...

    will have to give away my moquettianum to keep the species collection pure

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    Ok, Tim-O...send it here!

    Wouldn't want you to be impure.

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