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Phrag IQ #8 (I think)

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    Glad to see some folks jumping in!

    This was a hard one because she is still maturing her blooms, and the pictures on the web usually show a single blossom. She is evening out her pink/peach a little, and her petals are twisting, just slightly, and "drooping" a little.

    She is : Carol Kanzer (schlimii x pearcei)

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    Thanks Diane!
    It was a excellent quizz. I thoroughly enjoyed it!!! I thought I would never do a phrag quizz but this one is too pretty to pass. Besides, it has a fragrance too. All of the good points in my book! The pictures are also very beautiful. Diane, you might want to give it BD for his book.

    Oh, Tim-O, it's not that hard! Hehehhehe! Once I saw the pink color, my first thought would be "it must have schlimii in it". That is already half of the journey, making the remaining work more managaeable (of course later Diane confirmed it). It was very similar to my sanderianum hybrid quizz. One parent is very easy to discern, but the other parent is not too obvious. You have to put a bit of work into it, you might get the first guess wrong but that would help to narrow down the field a lot. On top of that, Diane gave us another BIG FAT hint, it's a girl! Hehehhehe!

    Julie,
    Well, sorry for the 5 girl name crosses. I mistook Seymour as a girl name, kept on thinking about that actress... Hehhehehe... So we agree now that there are only 4 girls (Hann, Carol, Stella, and Cleola) in schlimii primary crosses although one name (Cleola) is kind of weird?

    Cheers. Hoa.

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    that was my next guess, lol. Wow I thought your leaves are very big for a pearcei cross, but im not expert. Thank-you great quiz and pretty flowers. I thought pearcei was common in culture. I have one, but I don't think its growth is large enough to bloom yet. It's leaves kept browning at its tips when I first got it :-(

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    Wow. In over my head was an understatement. Thanks for the challenge, Diane! Please explain The characteristics of Carol Kanzer (schlimii x pearcei) and it's parentage (she IS beautiful!). How were others able to identify? What did they see? I want to learn!! Peach/pink color suggests schlimii, shape suggests????? Twist of petals? Girlie names???? "(Hann, Carol, Stella, and Cleola) in schlimii primary crosses although one name (Cleola) is kind of weird?" (quote: Hoa). Where can I learn more about phrag culture? Nah, I'm not excited about it or anything.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tmai
    Wow. In over my head was an understatement. Thanks for the challenge, Diane! Please explain The characteristics of Carol Kanzer (schlimii x pearcei) and it's parentage (she IS beautiful!). How were others able to identify? What did they see? I want to learn!! Peach/pink color suggests schlimii, shape suggests????? Twist of petals? The pouch shape and color should lead to the "pink pouch family" of phrags...the schlimii mostly... then the twist and droop to the petals leads to reviewing crosses with other phrag species to look for slight twisting and longer, drooping petals.


    Girlie names???? "(Hann, Carol, Stella, and Cleola) in schlimii primary crosses although one name (Cleola) is kind of weird?" (quote: Hoa).
    Once you get comfortable searching the paph and phrag sites on the net, you will find some that list plants by their parents - ie all the schlimii crosses, all the caudatum crosses, etc. Then you look for a cross that has a feminine name...

    Where can I learn more about phrag culture? Nah, I'm not excited about it or anything.......
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    partial answer to my own question - read other posts!!!
    Julie posted a couple of links a while back - HEY!! JULIE!! post those links again for Tmai!!

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    Ok, I'll post the links again, but only if I get to hijack this thread. My morning's a bit slow starting - I haven't hijacked anything in awhile...

    Back in my consulting days, I used to do some professional training. A big software vendor regularly hired me to teach a one day course on public speaking. They wanted me to train their sales guys from around the world how to best deliver team presentations to clients. The students would be from nearly every continent, with first names indigenous to their cultures, but very weird sounding to "western" ears.

    In the team presentation, each person in the four person team would do their bit and then introduce the next speaker. (for instance, Sir Speedo will now explain to you the aerodynamic properties of lycra...)

    Early on, I noticed a reoccurring problem. Folks with "non-western" names would be referred to 87 different ways, none of them correct. Rather than ask someone to repeat their name, or God forbid, to spell it (I can't remember a thing I hear - I have to visualize the word), students would wing it, and make up something that sounded close (maybe) to the person's name.

    I actually had to add a section to the course about learning each other's names correctly and making a point to get them right!

    Ok, so here are the links Dianne asked for:
    http://www.orchidspecies.com/index.htm
    http://ladyslipper.com/paphsp.htm

    Julie

    PS - I don't believe I have yet to see Tmai refer to herself as Tami...

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    I used the Royal Horticultuaral Society: Plants Registrants of Orchids to help me.

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    Do you have the link to that, Smartie?

    Julie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane
    I learned a lot by lurking on this site for a while and looking up what the people were discussing. Even though I've had orchids for many years, I have only recently ventured into plants other than phals, cyms, catts and bulldog paphs....(dends only after Hoa twisted my arm!!!) and what fun it has been!
    Hey, hey, hey ...
    I did not twist your arm. It was just a gentle tug, barely noticeable ... Hehehhehe!!!

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