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Can you help me identify this paph?

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    Default Can you help me identify this paph?

    Went into my supermarket to buy a chicken and they were just unpacking a box of orchids. Mostly phals and dens but hiding in the center was a beautiful healthy looking Paphiopedilum. There is new growth and a spike with a nice bud. Since orchids have a habit of following me home of course this was no exception. It's my first paph. It has a marker with the following on it. Alice Bell 'Rising Sun' X Alma Gavaert 'Goto'. I was unable to google it.

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    It's not a registered cross, so it's probably new.

    Paph. Alma Gevaert note the spelling, it's frequently misspelled! is a complex maudiae type of Paph, used frequently in hybriding.

    Paph. Rising Sun is even less well documented. It has 56% Paph. insigne in it's background, as well as villosum, spicerianum and boxallii, but there's a 12.5% unknown, which is tantalizing!

    It sounds like some sort of bulldog. That's a term for heavily hybridized complex Paphs. They have a round, bulldog face appearance.

    Be sure to post pics when it blooms!

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    Default Paph Alice Bell

    I found pictures of two crosses using Alice Bell and Alma Gavaert (the growers spelling) - which prove it to be a green and white maud. sorry for the poor pictures, took them from the web...



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    So you see what yours may look like....

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    The Alma Geveart is a pretty alba, but I don't know if it has to be made with alba parents. I have a coloratorum maudiae type with lots of AG parentage. Also, the other parent has minimal maudiae lineage, which makes me suspect bulldog, and not much at all like the pics you show Diane.

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    Sorry - I wasn't clear - these are pictures of 'Alma Gavaert x Alice Bell' and 'Alice Bell x Alma Gavaert', not just two random crosses using the above. So I would think they would be pretty close to what Katie has, if those two are the parents..

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    Oh yikes! My mistake - I'm so sorry, Diane and Katie! I was looking at the parentage of Paph. Rising Sun, which is so totally different than Paph. Alice Bell 'Rising Sun'. Diane is absolutely right - you'll have a delightful maudiae alba bloom.

    Can't wait to see it!

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    I feel like an expectant mother. This is the first orchid that I've had that
    I didn't know what it would look like when in bloom. If it is anything like the one you found Diane, it will be gorgeous. Those stripes are amazing. I'll be certain to post as soon as the bud opens.

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    Hi Katie,

    It will be close on to what Diane has pictured. Sorry for any confusion, but congrats on a lovely acquisition!

    McJulie

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    Wow! That's a pretty one! Good luck with the growing Katie.. we're looking forward to seeing yours in full bloom!

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    How exciting for you, Katie! I look forward to the photos of the 'new bloom' too! hehehehe... Congratulations on your first paph! For some reason, the paphs have a way of wanting lots of paph company. I will not be surprised if several more start to follow you home.

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