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Paph. lawrenceanum (maybe)

This is a discussion on Paph. lawrenceanum (maybe) within the Paphiopedilum, Phragmipedium, Cypripedium IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; not sure this is really lawrenceanum, definitely atypical. cross is 'Bernice' (fma. hyeanum, the green ...

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    Default Paph. lawrenceanum (maybe)

    not sure this is really lawrenceanum, definitely atypical. cross is 'Bernice' (fma. hyeanum, the green & white alba) x 'Birchwood' (normal colored). the increased green color may be explained by the parentage, but the lack of warts along the bottom edge is highly atypical for lawrenceanum, which by all accounts has warts along both petal edges. any paphheads out there want to chime in?


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    No matter what it is, I still love it! Such definitive lines and coloration.... If you're really that bothered by it, I'd be more than happy to take it off your hands.

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    I really like the lack of warts to the underside, I think it looks unusual. There's something very clean about the line of the sepal's bottom edge. Cool!

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    Jason, I thought the only difference between lawrenceanum and callosum is the placement of the warts.... lawrenceanum as you mentioned have warts on both edges of the petals, whilst callosum only has it on the top.

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    Still pretty!
    Cheers. Hoa.

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    Great picture and the flower ain't bad either !!!!
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    That dorsal is just magnificent.

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    tim, callosum has wider petals than lawrenceanum, with only warts on the top edge. callosum petals are also at least somewhat downswept, and their dorsals tend to have asymmetric twists at the top (while many lawrenceanum have symmetric dorsals).

    I just received word from the wellensteins that they have a division of lawrenceanum fma. hyeanum 'Bernice' and they feel it is definitely not a lawrenceanum, and probably a Maudiae. this would explain a bunch of things, namely the slightly downswept petals (pure lawrenceanum tends to be pretty horizontal), the warts only on the top edge, the slight asymmetric twist at the top of the dorsal, and the foliage, which is not typical lawrenceanum). I should add that lawrenceanum foliage *tends* to be very distinctive, rather yellowish in the background with a distinctive tessellation pattern.

    so if lawrenceanum 'Bernice' is Maudiae, this would actually be Alma Gevaert.

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    an Alma Gevaert, aye... well shucks even though it isn't a species... it still looks pretty

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    Do you know, I love this forum, and the mixture of fun stuff and educational discussion, but sometimes I wonder if I will ever be able to say anything other than "huh?" after reading even a short discussion of ancestry and associated characteristics like Jmoney's above.

    I know that some people refer to the adage that a wise man knows just how little he knows/ how much he has to learn but I am wondering if I can really use that as justification?

    Well hopefully, by reading these posts I will little by little absorb some of this amazing information and one day I can amaze someone myself!

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