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Too many spikes and keiki?

This is a discussion on Too many spikes and keiki? within the Phalaenopsis ('moth orchid') Information forums, part of the Frequently Asked Questions category; Hi, I purchased a white Phal . in bloom last May-June and enjoyed the 19 ...

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    Default Too many spikes and keiki?

    Hi,
    I purchased a white Phal. in bloom last May-June and enjoyed the 19 flowers it produced into sept. This was my first orchid.

    After checking several excellent sites I decided to see if it could be coaxed to bloom again. I cut back the spike to the proper places and waited. I was rewarded with 4 keiki.
    A few days ago I VERY lightly fertilized it with "Bloom Buster" and Boy! did it come to life with some additional length in the new growth. But now I see that there are 2 mire spikes growing from the leaves and base.

    Roots are very healthy (plant needs to be repotted), leaves seem to be fine and it lives on central Fl. riverfront lanai facing east.

    Help. Is this the death throes or what?

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    Default Wrong terminology orchid Keiki?

    Sorry for reposting so soon but I think I've used the term keiki to mean new flower growth on old spike. Please correct me if I was wrong.

    Thanks,

    Fatharry

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    Keikis a new plant growing from the spike, not new blooms. Congrats, this is the time of year that phal. hybrids send out their new spikes for the year. My guess is it's the drop in nightime temps that got it going.

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    If the roots are good and the leaves are healthy, sit back and enjoy.

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    I agree...sit back and enjoy! Betty :-)

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    It is definitely the changes in temperature that have caused this phal to spike and NOT the fertilizer. Having said that, high nitrogen food may/might inhibit the initiation of new spikes; the higher K and PO4 do help. One of the most important changes for phals, like cymbidiums, is temperature changes.

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    yea, post some progress pics! i would love to see it come into bloom!

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    Sounds like what ever your doing is working and you will be rewarded with more blooms.

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    Default Thank you all

    Hello new Friends,

    Thank you all so much for replying and the encouragement.

    Glad I was right about the keiki definition. Learning fast. This plant has been a joy so far. I will attempt an upload of its previous splendor and its present status.

    Thanks again and Merry Christmas to all.

    LL (aka Fatharry)

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    Thumbs up Hello fatharry & Welcome

    Hello fatharry,
    Welcome to Orchid Talk Forums. Growing & Raising Orchids IS about LEARNING.

    I also grow Phals (& other species) in Central FL. I grow outdoors, except in weather like we are having right now, days in 40s & 50s and nights into 20s. I use no fertilizer on any of my epiphytes at all. However, I encourage root systems to become photosynthetic by using extremely well drained, transparent, airable, plastic, containers with 100% sphagnum as their growing medium., or else to become actual "Air Roots" hanging out in the atmosphere as they often would, and in fact do in nature.

    In addition my plants get rained on all the time. Because of tilt or angle which they hang at, they drain out completely & very well, around both leaf & spike bases just fine. Airification as a result of containers I make from plastic soft drink bottles, dries loosely placed moss out quickly. If a couple days do pass without rain, I water with spray from a Garden hose, just like rain does.

    Having said the above, I will also state that unless you're into Morphology, Physiology & tropisms of plants you grow and have a good understanding of botany & plant culture generally. Don't change your regimen until you do.

    I want to emphasize above cultural practices will not work in closed opaque containers using commercially mixed, "fitzall media" with core of orchid plants vertical. I got away from that traditional type of growing for several reasons. I went to what I described above & found I had greater, easier, success than following traditional, accepted regimens and practices.

    I learned these methods from a couple commercial producers I know. One produces outdoors in a shade cloth structure, other uses an environmentally controlled grow house. But basically the same nuances of watering, reduced or no fertilization, using specimens own ocurring photosynthesis, & clear, well drained, airable containers are used by both. Curiously the indoor grower has a greater problem with pathogen control, probably due to enclosed structure and environment of recirculated atmosphere (It would be my guess anyway).

    Again Welcome to Orchid Talk Forums & Orchid Culture in general.
    I did not post what I posted above for any reason other than illustrate that variation & variety does exist within the field. Also what is best for some may not be best for others. One thing amazing about orchids generally is variety & variation within the Culture and Field. Hope to see you in the forums here.

    CIAO,

    DeLand.Dad




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