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Phal in Dire Need of Help (or is it too late?)

This is a discussion on Phal in Dire Need of Help (or is it too late?) within the Phalaenopsis ('moth orchid') Information forums, part of the Frequently Asked Questions category; You know, you hear "spag and bag" quite a bit from a lot of people. ...

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    You know, you hear "spag and bag" quite a bit from a lot of people. Most people aren't succesfully in doing it because they keep the bag too wet.

    All that condensation does nothing for the plant (except causing it to rot more). The inside of the bag should be much drier than that to avoid rot. With no air circulation...the plant only succumbs more quickly.

    Simply enclosing the plant in a bag without water does wonders to raise the humidity and make the plant happy.

    I say "Bag without spag" and maybe take the plant out of the bag every three or four days and mist it...letting it dry before replacing it in the bag.

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    I tried the plant-in-bag method for two weeks but the rot just continued. I regret trying to keep some semi-healthy roots, maybe if I'd removed everything that looked remotely sick in the first place I might have been able to stop the rot. That's a big MAYBE though. Definitely a lesson well learned (but hopefully never to be experience again).

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    That's part of the whole process. It's not a lost cause if you learned something from it...

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    I was certainly an interesting experience. Now I have to grow two keikis or perform two successful divisions to get the score to an even 0 again.

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    Divisions?!

    I'll have to do that soon, me thinks.... *runs and hides in the lunch room*

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    Shaydra,

    Don't divide minis until they at least overgrow a 6" pot. You'll get a spectacular show as the plant gets larger.

    Divisions are easy. Just cut the plant in two--really! I know this hurts the first time you do it, but the plants recover!

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    I was planning on doing this first with one of the Catts. I think the division of a phal is about xx years away for me

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    Overgrow a 6" pot, THEN divide. *nod*

    Thanks! I'll probably have my first experimentation on my mom's Blc Momilani... which has 2 leads growing over the edge of a 6" pot. Not exactly a 'mini' by any means, since the whole mess is about 24" tall. But my mom keeps complaining that it was too big when she bought it. I keep telling her that it just means she'll have tons of blooms every time.....


    And I don't think you actually 'divide' a phal... not until it makes a keiki, then you just cut the keiki off and stick it in it's own pot. ... Right?

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    Shay,

    You can't divide monopodials. You can however "top" the lanky phals and vandas. My Momilani Rainbow 'The Gypsy' is only 12" tall fully grown. I'm kinda glad I got a smaller one! (I'd put a plant that tall in an 8" pot and divide when it overgrows that.)




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    Overgrow a 6" pot, THEN divide. *nod*

    Thanks! I'll probably have my first experimentation on my mom's Blc Momilani... which has 2 leads growing over the edge of a 6" pot. Not exactly a 'mini' by any means, since the whole mess is about 24" tall. But my mom keeps complaining that it was too big when she bought it. I keep telling her that it just means she'll have tons of blooms every time.....


    And I don't think you actually 'divide' a phal... not until it makes a keiki, then you just cut the keiki off and stick it in it's own pot. ... Right?

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    Mom's Momilani Rainbow height includes the 6" tall pot it's in. So, its more like about 18" tall.... or something like that. I think it's on steroids. My little one (in comparison) that I got from Ron off orchid-bids isn't that tall, either. I wonder if when the blooms finally open, she'll find out it's a different plant.

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    Shay,

    You can't divide monopodials. You can however "top" the lanky phals and vandas. My Momilani Rainbow 'The Gypsy' is only 12" tall fully grown. I'm kinda glad I got a smaller one! (I'd put a plant that tall in an 8" pot and divide when it overgrows that.)

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