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Phalaenopsis amabilis var. grandiflora

This is a discussion on Phalaenopsis amabilis var. grandiflora within the Phalaenopsis, Oncidium, & Intergenerics IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; Originally Posted by Desdinova Beautiful and elegant, all true. One of the finest aphrodites I've ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desdinova View Post
    Beautiful and elegant, all true. One of the finest aphrodites I've seen yet. Not amabilis.
    Hi Julie,
    how could you tell it's Phal. aphrodite?

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    I'd like to know as well. Granted, I'm not a Phal expert and I've often confused these two species but the plant was sold as an amabilis. (I still have it. Bloomed in the late spring).

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    What ever it is, it is beautiful. I love these big-flowered phals. I once had a meeting with a client in the bar of a hotel in Paris and there were hundreds of white phals in the bar. It was so beautiful. Don't remember the name of the hotel (something like Grand Hotel) but is was close to the Opera.

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    Phal amabilis has a longer, more narrow lip. aphrodite is shorter and wider. Also the flower parts of amabilis tend to be more open (segments spaced farther apart) in shape. Basically what most people call amabilis is actually either aphrodite or formosana. True amabilis is almost never seen anymore, because of the open shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desdinova View Post
    Phal amabilis has a longer, more narrow lip. aphrodite is shorter and wider. Also the flower parts of amabilis tend to be more open (segments spaced farther apart) in shape. Basically what most people call amabilis is actually either aphrodite or formosana. True amabilis is almost never seen anymore, because of the open shape.
    Hi Julie,
    partly correct, but due to variation in the flower segments, it's hardly an indicator. The main character, which sets Phal.aphrodite apart, is the callus with 2 teeth on each side on the back of it. So for that, a closeup shot is always needed.

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    True. However if you can't get close enough to see, the lip is good for a seat of the pants judgment call. I suspect strongly that some of plants with indeterminate features are hybrids of the two.

    This is why some of the C. walkerianas available are actually x mesquitae. At one time, nobilis was thought to be just a variant of walkeriana, so nobody thought anything of crossing the two and calling it walkeriana.

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    It's beautiful but not var. grandilflora. It's the result of serious line breeding over generations. Could have several species in its background.

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    I totally agree with Steve. It's not a species. Whatever, a white hybrid Phal is a beauty.
    Here is a very interesting website for Phal species, particularly the amabilis complex : Phal. amabilis.
    Phalaenopsis grandiflora is a name used by orchid farmers, especially in the Netherlands, for hybrid Phalaenopsis with large white flowers.

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    Majestic! Such great care you did, to reward you like that. Bravo!

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