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The Big Phalaenopsis

This is a discussion on The Big Phalaenopsis within the Phalaenopsis, Oncidium, & Intergenerics IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; Originally Posted by zildjian thanks so much Calan for your growing tips it is greatly ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zildjian View Post
    thanks so much Calan for your growing tips it is greatly appreciated. It's always a delight and inspiring to see your phals. Please tell us more. Our weather is not that different and I'm hoping to become an expert grower soon. I may need to add another layer of net into my growing area to further control the temperature during the day. Our night temp could go down to 20C from November to probably March but day temp is high at 31C to 33C.

    With regards to soil as medium, what type of soil are you using? This is amazing and defies what the so called culture requirement for this plant is telling us. Do you really mean soil as in soil from the ground (earthground)?
    Zildjian I would say that (earthground) soil (as you call it) is NOT orchid medium (except for the terrestrial types). Orchids are basically aerial plants (epiphytes though some are lithophytes or terrestials or a combination of these) so regular (earth) soil will kill your phal. I've seen phals grown like these in the photos at the UP College of Horticulture in Los Banos, Laguna, Philippines several years ago when they had a very active orchid breeding program and laboratory .... some phals I saw there were 3 feet tall already and had a complete set of leaves from the base of the plant with tons of actively growing roots. A lot of the plants had multiple offshoots. Those were such awesome, excellent specimen plants and a sight to behold. It has been a long time since I last visited the "college" as we used to call the university way back then and most of my professor and plant-friends have gone to seek other adventures and/or careers ... some are still around but I no longer have news of them anymore.

    Another thing is that it also boils down to a good medium that can retain enough moisture without getting soggy wet and has very good aeration specially in the root area. The climate and humidity as Hoa Tony Nguyen mentioned earlier in this thread does play a major role too. Of course the water quality is another factor in good growth and to watch for that the leaves DRY out well specially in the evening to discourage bacterial rot. Feeding with organic ferts appears to do well with phals too coupled with a good amount of bright (but not burning) (sun)light. Dried horse manure which has been cleaned and disinfected properly has been used by some Philippine growers with success but a regular thorough watering is advised on a regular basis to wash out any accumulation of concentrated salts and stale organic debris which can harm the roots.

    There is a very well-known commercial grower (and importer/exporter/breeder) in the Philippines who specializes in Phalaenopsis who has a huge farm in the highlands of Silang, Cavite and her Phalaenopsis plants can rival the growth and size of those shown here. According to that grower - she (yes she's a lady) has told me that the climate in her farm does play a major role (among others) .... she has told me her location there is very conducive to grow orchids (specially phalaenopsis types) and plants in general ..... some plants that she cuts/propagates, she just sticks it almost anywhere where she could find a good place to mount it and before she knows it, it has grown so plump and healthy even if she's neglected it. Oh well ... so much for locations blessed with excellent climates .... take me (or rather my grow area) for example, I've got a fair amount of knowledge to grow plants but I simply am not blessed with the proper, natural conditions/climate for certain types of orchids so growing these types becomes a real challenge for me - I live in a townhouse with no real garden area right in the hustle and bustle of Manila in Quezon City. The natural grow climates of Silang, Cavite and Los Banos, Laguna are a far cry from what I have.

    Most of the phals I've seen pictured here though are commercial hybrid phals so I am just wondering if they are equally successful in growing the different species type phals, which of course most of them have varied growing conditions and requirements even though they are also phals .... Hmmmm ....... and some species phals can be difficult to grow too depending on ones' grow area ....
    Last edited by ManilaByNight; October 26th, 2011 at 10:05 AM.

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    I really like the Phals that is showing in this thread, i love to have one like this, but mu phals are leaning as it grows and not upward, maybe their large leaves are taking the toll id the stem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManilaByNight View Post
    Zildjian I would say that (earthground) soil (as you call it) is NOT orchid medium (except for the terrestrial types). Orchids are basically aerial plants (epiphytes though some are lithophytes or terrestials or a combination of these) so regular (earth) soil will kill your phal. I've seen phals grown like these in the photos at the UP College of Horticulture in Los Banos, Laguna, Philippines several years ago when they had a very active orchid breeding program and laboratory .... some phals I saw there were 3 feet tall already and had a complete set of leaves from the base of the plant with tons of actively growing roots. A lot of the plants had multiple offshoots. Those were such awesome, excellent specimen plants and a sight to behold. It has been a long time since I last visited the "college" as we used to call the university way back then and most of my professor and plant-friends have gone to seek other adventures and/or careers ... some are still around but I no longer have news of them anymore.

    Another thing is that it also boils down to a good medium that can retain enough moisture without getting soggy wet and has very good aeration specially in the root area. The climate and humidity as Hoa Tony Nguyen mentioned earlier in this thread does play a major role too. Of course the water quality is another factor in good growth and to watch for that the leaves DRY out well specially in the evening to discourage bacterial rot. Feeding with organic ferts appears to do well with phals too coupled with a good amount of bright (but not burning) (sun)light. Dried horse manure which has been cleaned and disinfected properly has been used by some Philippine growers with success but a regular thorough watering is advised on a regular basis to wash out any accumulation of concentrated salts and stale organic debris which can harm the roots.

    There is a very well-known commercial grower (and importer/exporter/breeder) in the Philippines who specializes in Phalaenopsis who has a huge farm in the highlands of Silang, Cavite and her Phalaenopsis plants can rival the growth and size of those shown here. According to that grower - she (yes she's a lady) has told me that the climate in her farm does play a major role (among others) .... she has told me her location there is very conducive to grow orchids (specially phalaenopsis types) and plants in general ..... some plants that she cuts/propagates, she just sticks it almost anywhere where she could find a good place to mount it and before she knows it, it has grown so plump and healthy even if she's neglected it. Oh well ... so much for locations blessed with excellent climates .... take me (or rather my grow area) for example, I've got a fair amount of knowledge to grow plants but I simply am not blessed with the proper, natural conditions/climate for certain types of orchids so growing these types becomes a real challenge for me - I live in a townhouse with no real garden area right in the hustle and bustle of Manila in Quezon City. The natural grow climates of Silang, Cavite and Los Banos, Laguna are a far cry from what I have.

    Most of the phals I've seen pictured here though are commercial hybrid phals so I am just wondering if they are equally successful in growing the different species type phals, which of course most of them have varied growing conditions and requirements even though they are also phals .... Hmmmm ....... and some species phals can be difficult to grow too depending on ones' grow area ....
    Thanks!
    Anyway, are you referring to the grower who has 2 shops in msbf? He he PM me the farm I can pay a visit if open to walk-in customers. I'm near to them.

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    Phals is my friend

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    i don't understand what about you say that ???

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    Hi, in my place, climate plays only a minor role, high technology and observations while growing orchids with experience can create big Phalaenopsis
    - The good weather is also good orchid but which should be only accompanied by as much technical experience, fertilizing reasonable adjustments enough light, these factors create the health Phalaenopsis

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    Wow! How long have you had that plant?? Must be a happy plant!

    Good Luck!
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    thanks you
    -Average two-three year for one Phals from shop ,was had the first blooming

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    Awesome what a huge phal...very beautiful blooms it has to

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