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Phal. Violecia var Coeruela question

This is a discussion on Phal. Violecia var Coeruela question within the Phalaenopsis, Oncidium, & Intergenerics IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; I ordered this, it arrived in bloom (woo hoo) and theres no blue! Where's the ...

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    Question Phal. Violecia var Coeruela question

    I ordered this, it arrived in bloom (woo hoo) and theres no blue! Where's the blue! Why is it yellow and green?? Anyone?

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    p.s. There's a ton going on...i'll be lurking and not posting alot for abit. When things calm down i'll be back.... Thanks for looking.

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    Connie relax look like you got the semialba form CONGRATULATIONS, stunning I like it very nice shape. I only can see some of bluish color on the lip might be my imagination unless you can take lateral view.

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    I think that it's beautiful...however if it's not what you ordered, why not call, or e-mail the vendor? Maybe they'll send you another one, & you can probably keep that one also!
    :-) Betty

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    The pictures and colors I'm seeing indicate it is v. coerulea. I am seeing the blue color around the column and on the lip. The amount of blue is highly variable and the typical v. coerulea I have seen don't show a lot of really distinctive blue color. I understand that cultural conditions can also affect the amount of blue color. If you want the really strong blues, then you need to get one of the "indigo" violaceas.

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    Yes there is a "blush" of blue to it...so I call it semi-alba? K...I am not exactly upset, just was hoping for more blue. I'll just have to find one of the indigo types....thanks for the help e1!

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    It may not be really 'blue' but it has very good shape.I concur with Zainal - call it a semi-alba.

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    I can see the tag and it says "Phal. violacea var. coerulea x sibling".

    Since this has been crossed by another violacea and not a mericlone then expect that there will be variations that occur in the offspring.

    There have been many instances where species crossed with self, with siblings or even with same species that have exhibited variations in the resulting offspring. This is especially true with the uncommon alba and coerulea forms (or others that veer away from the more common or standard forms).

    That's why if you really want the exact plant as you see in catalog you can either ask for a mericlone or a cutting (either by keiki or division).

    Nice semi alba form though and I believe rarer than the coerulea form.

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    It is a beauty, Connie.

    Quote Originally Posted by ManilaByNight View Post
    I can see the tag and it says "Phal. violacea var. coerulea x sibling".

    Since this has been crossed by another violacea and not a mericlone then expect that there will be variations that occur in the offspring.

    There have been many instances where species crossed with self, with siblings or even with same species that have exhibited variations in the resulting offspring. This is especially true with the uncommon alba and coerulea forms (or others that veer away from the more common or standard forms).

    That's why if you really want the exact plant as you see in catalog you can either ask for a mericlone or a cutting (either by keiki or division).

    Nice semi alba form though and I believe rarer than the coerulea form.
    Thanks so much. I wondered if the cross was the reason for the coloring.

    Cheers,
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    Cool...you learn something new every day! I'll have to add semi alba to it's tag...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutal_Dreamer View Post
    It is a beauty, Connie.

    Thanks so much. I wondered if the cross was the reason for the coloring.

    Cheers,
    BD
    It is possible. I've read somewhere that there is high chance of variability in the offspring of the Phal. violacea line.

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