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Can Phalaenopsis hybrids be identified by their flowers?

This is a discussion on Can Phalaenopsis hybrids be identified by their flowers? within the Phalaenopsis, Oncidium, & Intergenerics IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; Yes, it is very to identify a Phalaenopsis hybrid by looking at the flowers... Oh ...

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    Yes, it is very to identify a Phalaenopsis hybrid by looking at the flowers...

    Oh wait, you mean WHICH hybrid specifically? Not so much. Maybe in some cases if it is a primary hybrid. Maybe if it is a particularly distinctive and well know clone that is everywhere right now, but even then flowers are variable in size, color and pattern depending on conditions, and almost certainly overlapping in appearance with similar hybrids. And many mass market Phals are unnamed crosses of unnamed parents, never distributed with a name attached, and bred specifically to look similar to popular hybrids. Any precise identification has a certain aspect of self-delusion involved.

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    there are some beautiful pictures of beautiful orchids here. wow! I, too, was attempting to id some phals, I have tags for some, but haven't found those to be very useful for identification. At least the way I'm trying to id them: by searching on the name on the tag. hmmmmm......spotty results from that. But I still can enjoy the blooms and work the rest of the year to help them bloom again.

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    No, you can't ID Phalaenopsis hybrids based on appearance. There are way too many hybrids that are similar.

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    Delusion, as in wishful thinking. Guess I will just have to enjoy the pretty flowers when they show up and be pleasantly surprised. Thanks

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    All of the "nay"-sayers are correct. You may think that you have an ID, but there is no way to know for sure, and there are any number of reasons to doubt.

    The zillions of similar hybrids being produced is one thing, but if you consider that (AxB)xC - where each represents a known complex hybrid - and Ax(BxC), and (AxC)xB are three, different hybrids, even though their genetics likely overlap a lot - and there might, just might be some that are identical - how could you possibly know which is which?

    Then, if you add that there is natural variability among siblings, and that culture plays a significant role in flowers too, the odds of being wrong are astronomical.

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    Thank you...I will just enjoy the blooms and realize that at least the orchids know who they are

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