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Phalaenopsis gigantia

This is a discussion on Phalaenopsis gigantia within the Phalaenopsis, Oncidium, & Intergenerics IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; Yew Sung, sound reasoning indeed. This issue has rather perplexed me I have to admit ...

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    Yew Sung, sound reasoning indeed. This issue has rather perplexed me I have to admit as many senior growers insist on only organic fertilisers especially for species plants. I admit as a young "ciku"(rookie) in the orchid fraternity, I am reluctant to voice my opinion for fear my seniors may deride my opinions! Chemical and organic fertilisers essentially do the same thing dont they? In the delivery of NPK although I suppose chemical fertilisers have specific ratios which can be utilised whilst organic fertilisers are rather more haphazard in their ratios? Im not sure how you tailor chemical ratios in organic fertiliser..its not as if I can tell the goat to eat more of something to increase its potassium!
    I once asked a senior grower why I couldnt use chemical fertilisers on bulbos and he just told me that if I did all the leaves would fall off which really scared me thereafter!

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    A very wise man once said - Don't accept or reject everything. Listen, test, reflect and then practise - . Of course he was referring to the teachings of his faith but I think it applies to most things in life.
    I'm so glad you did not voice your opinions to the senior or , having met many like him, he would have given you a blistering look and in the most imperious of voice say 'Young man, I have taken more salt than you have of rice.' (BTW This is a be-all and end-all Chinese quote of elders to put young people in their place) And that would surely cause all the leaves to fall off your bulbos!

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    Quote Originally Posted by catttan View Post
    A very wise man once said - Don't accept or reject everything. Listen, test, reflect and then practise - . Of course he was referring to the teachings of his faith but I think it applies to most things in life.
    I'm so glad you did not voice your opinions to the senior or , having met many like him, he would have given you a blistering look and in the most imperious of voice say 'Young man, I have taken more salt than you have of rice.' (BTW This is a be-all and end-all Chinese quote of elders to put young people in their place) And that would surely cause all the leaves to fall off your bulbos!
    HEhehe...I do respect my elders experience and wisdom though, although I feel there is always a little room for some lateral thinking. I recently bought some fish emulsion to experiment with but *gak* I didnt realise how pong-tastic it is..I swear I attracted all the stray tabbies in my area! Im not sure I wanna use it anymore..!

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    Gavin as long as the fish emulsion is not to oily the orchids love it! I get a fish fertilizer with seaweed (this is processed, but not cooked) which probably does not smell as much, but the last galleon of the stuff was too oily. If it feels real oily don't use it. AL

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    REally Al? Hmm, then I may persist with it for a while, I might have to invest in a gas mask though.

    I have no idea if its too oily..its smells so bad I use surgical gloves as I dont want it to get on my hands!

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    Yew thanks for your excellence answer for Gavin.
    Gavin through my experience I dont like to use organic fertilizer because the smell is terrible, secondly it will attract or enhancing the growth of green algae and prevent good oxygenation of the plants itself at roots level. No doubt the leaves are thick and looks pretty but they are susceptible to develop another fungal infection and easily break. All the times I used chemical fertilizer so far doing quite well for me.

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    Thanks Zain for sharing your experience..I have to agree that the smell can be off-putting..everytime I take the lid off the container for my goats manure i swear i die a little..

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    There you are, Gavin - advice from Zainal who has one of the best collection of species.

    PS. I don't seem to be able to PM you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gavstang View Post
    Thanks Zain for sharing your experience..I have to agree that the smell can be off-putting..everytime I take the lid off the container for my goats manure i swear i die a little..
    Gavin the smell oh no uek...uek..uek..hope your neighbor wont complaint he.he.he

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    Zain; I hope you don't mind me commenting, but you may be right about this. I have completely stopped using the Fish fertilizer on orchids where there is bound to be leaf contact with the solution. This may not be enough though. The orchid leaf problems I had with one vanda were only on leaves that had prolonged contact with this fertilizer. I have used this stuff for years, but this last rather oily galleon may of been the tipping point. Glad I read your post. AL

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