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Rhynchostele Violetta von Holm

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    Pity the poor Rhynchostele - she has had more names than most. A fairly simple hybrid , using the old names ( Mark1 ) Odontoglossum rossii x Od, bictoniense = Odm Bic-Ross, then back crossed onto bictoniense.
    But Odm bictoniense became a Lemboglossum ( Mark 2) , and Odm rossii became something else which I have now forgotten, maybe an Oncidium. I bouight this hybrid when first offered some years ago under the generic name Odontonia ! This current plant was sold to me as a straight odontoglossum; what a mess.

    The rossii parent looks just like this, few flowered, but just brown and white ; the bictoniense parent is similar to this, but less marking on the petals and much smaller - not that this is a giant , flowers maybe 4 cm, 5cm at the most. The 2nd generation is no doubt an attempt to get bictoniense flower count back into the grex , since bic' will produce tall even branched spikes of 20 + flowers , but alas, it doesn't seem to have worked. Still, it's a pretty little thing, takes up no space at all, and easy to grow.

    Will be found under many mangled versions of the name - e.g. Memoria Violetta von Holm ( as far as I know she is still alive !) ; mine - this plant - was labelled it as Remember Van Holm !

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    Often this name changing of orchids is so confusing. And now a Memoria orchid designation for someone who is still alive. Well, whatever the name of this one - she is a beautiful bloom. First thing I saw this morning on the slideshow on the home page. So pretty.

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    I looked at the AOS awards; there are three. Flower count from 10-18, all had solid pink lips of varying intensity, and 5-7.5 cm. I guess the bictoniense had the effect you mentioned in some cases. They were all awarded as Odontoglossums (1995-2005).

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    Very nice flowers.

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    Lovely blooms, Geoff, whatever you call them - I'm so confused by these name changes right now that every plant that even looks like there might be any oncid somewhere in it becomes an "Oncid" - then I chase down the names, if I have the time and inclination. I find it frustrating not to have the proper nomenclature on my orchids.




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    Name confusion can be frustrating. Just when I think I have a name down they change it on me. And lately they change them to something that is more unpronouncable (is that a word? lol) than before! Ah well...

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    Lovely blooms.
    I'm not rushing to change tags and never have. The constant taxonomic name changes are confusing, to say the least.

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