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Who Am I??

This is a discussion on Who Am I?? within the Phalaenopsis, Oncidium, & Intergenerics IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; I bought this pretty little plant yesterday. It is in really good health, but I ...

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    I bought this pretty little plant yesterday. It is in really good health, but I would love to know if the name is correct and it's mix. This is a Oncidium hybrid and the name they put on it is Senora Que baila. It has a very strong peppery smell. The flower is side ways on the spike, that is why it looks a bit odd in the picture. I wrote to the nursery that sold the store the plant but, haven't heard back. I also did a Google search and got nothing about orchids with that name. I sure would appreciate any help on this.

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    I don't know the name details of your plant, but it sure has a pretty flower. Doesn't 'Senora que baila' just mean "dancing lady"? I thought those were yellow. Anyway, I'm having good luck with these intergenetics in a small bark, sphag, and a little expanded clay pellets mixture. They don't want to be soggy, but they sure like their water. And sun--mine are in the sunniest (inside) locations I can find. They don't love being hot--so that might be an issue where you live. But you have the humidity that I don't, so maybe it will all even out. I hope she thrives for you!

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    This probably isn't the exact same plant, but a sample for you to look at. It's a Miltassia.


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    Boy, that is really close. You said that it was a Miltassia, so I treat it as a Brassia or a Miltonia? This has been a huge help, thanks so much Diane.

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    It looks like some sort of Degarmoara, Julie. Miltonia x Brassia x Odontoglossum. My mystery plant just bloomed and turned out to be a Degarmoara as well. Diane - i dont think its a miltassia. The petals are hinting at the odontoglossum influence - less spidery than that of the miltassia, due to the strong brassia influence.

    If you look through pictures of Degarmoaras, youll probably find a name for your plant, Julie. Nice bloom.

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    i have one of those. i don't know its propper name, but it is widely known as a peggy ruth carpenter.

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    i don't remember mine smelling of pepper, but it sure looks the same to me..
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    Don't get too concerned over the exact type... Just consider it an intergenic. They have similar growing needs, you just pick one as a guideline and adjust to your growing environment. Think high light, don't let it dry out completly, maybe CHC/bark mix for media... Lovely coloration.

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    Guys, I think we have it!

    Again, working with the assumption that while the tag might be screwed up to a fare-thee-well, there's usually some truth hidden in it.

    I just got the latest upgrade to OrchidWiz (rev. 3.02) and installed it. I just walked in the door from Maine and haven't had dinner yet...this orchid disease I have is getting serious! I must say, as an aside, that Alex, the guy who's created it goes to great lengths to consider suggestions and add features and more photos. The program is really starting to hum!

    Oncidiums, the genus - not the alliance, are referred to as dancing ladies. This is an excerpt from: http://www.orchidlady.com/pages/encyclopedia/o.html

    "[Oncidium] (Onc.) Gr. onkos,tumor, swelling; alluding the warty callus on the lip of all Oncidium species.
    Common name: "Dancing Dolls" and "Dancing Ladies" because the blooms are strung out like a chorus line. "


    I searched the database for any combo of the words, "Senora Que baila." Nothing. Nada. So that's not a registered name.

    I then hopped on Mehera's idea and searched for any hybrid in the Onc. alliance with the name "Dancing Lady." There's an Aliceara Dancing Lady. Aliceara is an Onc. intergeneric cross of Milt x Brs x Onc. The Miltassia (Milt x Brs crosses), as Diane suggested, have much thinner petals. I thought Beallara (Bllra.), but they have much fatter petals. The Aliceara are the same form.

    That there's an Aliceara (Alcra.) Dancing Lady, makes me suspect this is your guy, Julie. I haven't found a picture of one. The Onc cross is the yellow varicosum species, but if the other parent carried the seed pod - who knows? I think that's probably it.

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    Wow Julie, I am impressed with the info you put in there. The spider like petals of this flower are not as thin as Diane's Miltassia but they are really close and the coloring is a dead ringer for her's. I am not familiar with the Alicerara but I will look them up and see if I can find some thing. I do think though they are mixed up with the Brassia because of the spider like petals. on the outside. If you come up with some more info. I would sure be interested, in the mean time I will treat it with good sunlight and moist conditions. Thanks again.

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    The Aliceara is Diane's Miltassia with some Oncidium crossed in, so it is very similar.

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