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Phalaenopsis Mini Mark 'Holm'

This is a discussion on Phalaenopsis Mini Mark 'Holm' within the Phalaenopsis, Oncidium, & Intergenerics IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; Phal . Mini Mark is 50% philippinensis, 25% maculata and 25% lobbii. Phal . philippinensis ...

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    Phal. Mini Mark is 50% philippinensis, 25% maculata and 25% lobbii.

    Phal. philippinensis is a standard sized white species that's used heavily in the breeding of the large white Phals that have flooded home improvement stores and grocery stores. It belongs to the subgenus, Phalenopsis within the genus of Phalenopsis.

    Both maculata and lobbii are minis. Their flowers barely reach 2 cm across. Maculata belongs to the stripey subgenus Polychilos (stripes or bars on the flowers), and lobbiii is a weird shaped guy in the subgenus Parishianae, which contains four species that have a broad, flat lip in common.

    There - more than you wanted to know about that cute little guy!

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    Everything I have read on this plant says, "Phalaenopsis Mini Mark 'Holm' is a hybrid between Micro Nova (maculata x parishii) and philippinense." Where did you get your information from?

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    Phal Micro Nova is the name of the cross maculata x parishii.....

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    You're right on the parentage, except that Micro Nova's parent is lobbii and not parishii.

    Phal parishii and lobbii have long been confused with each other, and several classic hybrids have been attributed to parishii, that are rightful progeny of Phal lobbii. Mini Mark is one such.

    Eric Christenson provides a more detailed explanation of the differences in his book, Phalaenopsis: A Monograph. My data came off OrchidWiz, which uses the AOS registered data.

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    What is the name of maculata x parishii? Everything I have found says maculata x parishii is Mircro Nova, and Mini Mark 'Holm' is Micro Nova x philipinense

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    Beautiful blooms.The tiny ones are cool,however small the details are beautiful.I have one mini phal noid if it bloms i should have a camera by then!!that flower is about as big as your thumb nail
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    There's no registered hybrid for maculata x parishii. That was my point. Parishii was incorrect. The parent is lobbii.

    Phal maculata x lobbii is Phal Micro Nova. Phal maculata x parishii is not a registered cross. I'm not going to reprint the Christenson text, but the summary is that these guys have been confused for a long time and some of the standard names/parentage are not correct. He's the Phal guy.

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    My avatar is of the first flower on my Mini Mark Holm. The flowers lasted for over 3 months.

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    Diane PM'ed me asking for more clarification on the Phal lobbii vs. parishii mixup. I thought others might be interested, so I'll post it publically:

    Lobbii was considered a form of parishii by some, until it was officially designated its own species in 1992. But that's only part of the confusion. Pure parishii were mistaken for parishii var. lobbii (aka lobbii) by breeders. And some of the believed parishii hybrids were actually made with lobbii.

    In Phalenopis: A Monograph, Christenson writes:

    "Phal lobbii has long been confused with P. parishii. In the absence of true P. parishii in cultivation, it was plausible to consider P. lobbii a color variant of P. parishii with some differences in the callus. This treatment was reinforced over the past 30 years by the thousands of P. lobbii that have entered horticulture from northeast India and the void of P. parishii in cultivation until very recently [this book was published in 2001]. . .

    "Most hybrids registered to date that supposedly used P. parishii as a parent were actually made with P. lobbii: for example, P. Formosa Dream (amabilis x lobbii, not amabilis x parishii) and P. Micro Nova (lobii x maculata, not parishii x maculata). A number of these hybirds were illustrated in Gruss and Wolff (1995) using the name P. parishii as one of the parents. The recognition of P. lobbii as seperate from P. parishii affectst the horticultural community, as hybrids with true P. parishii are now maturing and will need to be distinguuished from earlier mis-named hybrids. It also affects the scientific community where plants of P. lobbii have also been lumped under P. parishii."

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