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For the Paph/ Phrag experts

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    Default For the Paph/ Phrag experts

    Hello!

    Well, as I could perceive so far, there are lots of paphs and phrag lovers around here!

    Maybe someone can help me with these two Noids I have..

    The Phrag. I'm not sure if it's another clone of Phrag. Grande or some other phrag, and the Paph I guess it resembles Paph. spicerianum.
    Of course, I'm not an expert so I'm far from being sure other that knowing both these plants are very old ones.

    Kind regards

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    Evening Joao!
    (not sure how to do the ~ sorry!)

    The second certainly looks like spice. to me...not sure about the first...I'd bet Jason and Pete might be able to help. Very very pretty though...sort of reminds me of....no, won't say and risk board humiliation! *SUCH* nice long petals though! sigh.... I just don't know! Sorry!

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    Joao, I love the Phrag bloom! Wish I could help you with identifying it. The Paph looks like spicerianum to me also. Both in excellent shape, good growing!

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    The Phrag looks like a Grande with shorter petals and also resembles a Mont Fallu, so it could be any of those hybrids. Sorry couldn't ID it for you! Very nice picture, though.

    The Paph is definitely a spicerianum.

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    Mmmmm......spiiiiiice......


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    The phrag will be hard to definitively ID. It looks to me to have some besseae in it, also some caudatum or other long petalled species.

    I do not believe that the paph is pure spicerianum. The petals are too wide and I do not believe that spicerianum has spots in the dorsal. It could very well be spicerianum x insigne, however, or maybe spice x gratrixianum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmoney
    The phrag will be hard to definitively ID. It looks to me to have some besseae in it, also some caudatum or other long petalled species.

    I do not believe that the paph is pure spicerianum. The petals are too wide and I do not believe that spicerianum has spots in the dorsal. It could very well be spicerianum x insigne, however, or maybe spice x gratrixianum.
    Jason, I think you're correct about the spice. Didn't notice the wider petals, good eye!

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    could the Phrag be a Ruby Slippers? I believe RS is besseae x caudatum.

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    Default NOID plants...

    The Phrag looks like longifolium hybrid... maybe x bessae...
    and the Paph sure looks like it has some villosum in the spiceranum...
    Regards... Scotty.

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    Default Paph spicerianum...

    I finally found the pic i was looking for...
    Paph spicerianum... undiluted...
    Regards... Scotty.
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