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My New Paph

This is a discussion on My New Paph within the Photography Archive 1 forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; I traded my Renethera Monachica and got a very nice Paph Silmaril (oriental mystique x ...

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    I traded my Renethera Monachica and got a very nice Paph Silmaril
    (oriental mystique x Alma Gavaert) Isn't it pretty!?
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    Very pretty Traci! I do love the foliage on those maudiae types. Mine is still pretty wee but I am looking forward to seeing it bloom! Your's will be green, right? I tried to find a bloom pic to no avail...just parents. Congrats on your new baby!

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    Pretty mottled leaves, very reptilian looking!

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    Looks like a true vini, based on the leaf pigmentation. It's funny when people name paphs after color. (Or maybe it's these people who are funny.) Paph. Onyx comes in very dark vini forms and the so-called "alba" (green & white). Paph. Black Diamond is very very pink.

    Not to nitpick, but just an FYI: the correct name is Paph. Silmaril, registered by Terry Root of the OZ. He has an apparent fascination with Lord of the Rings and associated Tolkien works, and of course the tree frog collection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmoney
    Looks like a true vini, based on the leaf pigmentation. It's funny when people name paphs after color. (Or maybe it's these people who are funny.) Paph. Onyx comes in very dark vini forms and the so-called "alba" (green & white). Paph. Black Diamond is very very pink.

    Not to nitpick, but just an FYI: the correct name is Paph. Silmaril, registered by Terry Root of the OZ. He has an apparent fascination with Lord of the Rings and associated Tolkien works, and of course the tree frog collection.
    That is a cool fact, and I was just about to tell Heather that I left the L off the ending. No wonder she couldn't find a photo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heather
    Very pretty Traci! I do love the foliage on those maudiae types. Mine is still pretty wee but I am looking forward to seeing it bloom! Your's will be green, right? I tried to find a bloom pic to no avail...just parents. Congrats on your new baby!
    I spelled it incorrectly, leaving off the all important L at the end. Do a google for Paph Silmaril. It brings up only 2 photos, mine will be likw the one on the left.

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    judging from those leaves, the color will be more similar to this:

    vinicolor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmoney
    judging from those leaves, the color will be more similar to this:

    vinicolor
    That would be cool, how can you tell from the leaf color? Wes (the guy I traded with) couldn't remember the color of the past bloom (has many paphs ). I think no matter what color it is, I'll like it. I only have 1 paph, so this will compliment it well no matter what color.

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    a big swatch of dark purple at the base of mottled-leaf paphs is the best indicator of vinicolorism (not parents, since crossing two vinis only produces a percentage of vinis in the offspring). there is a tight linkage between leaf base and flower color. only 1-3% of plants will not follow this rule, i.e. a dark leaf base producing a normal colored flower, or a green leaf base producing a vini.

    certain species will have varying degrees of red inherently (i.e. wolterianum, charlesworthii), but for your standard mottled-leaf hybrids, the leaf base is the best indicator. that's why people often charge more for dark leaf bases.

    and at any given time on ebay, you can always find sellers who post pictures of the darkest of vinis...and then the actual plant has zero red at the leaf base. that's one good sign to avoid that seller.

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    Ahh...of course! As in Silmarillion! Still not gotten thru that one!

    He responsible for that Milt.(?) Shelob too??? Maybe it was a Brassia - should'a been...imo...

    Ok so I don't get why both parents look greenish but the base of this one of OT's is red like a vini would be?

    The leaves (not the base) look like my maudiae coloratum very much, and different mottleing than my other mottled leaves. (2 others, noid paph and that Antec one I just sold.) My maud. is much more interesting in the mottled pattern and very similar to Traci's leaves.

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