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Old 02-09-2007, 10:07 AM
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Hmmm I'll say 4 albas.
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29 total 1/4 alba ?? just guessing . Gin
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The alba is a recessive trait and is subordinate to the natural form. Recessive traits only exibit when matched with the same recessive trait as a pair. (I spent a LOT of time discussing this stuff while I was breeding leopard geckos!!!)

The Punnett Square looks like this:

The parents of this cross are each NA

N = Natural
A = Alba (recessive)

.....N......A
N..NN....NA
A..NA....AA

NN = Natural form, no recessive genes
NA = Natrual form, alba gene carried but not expressed
AA = Alba form expressed

Soooooo, theoretically 75 % of the offspring should express the natural form and 25% should express the alba trait.

There is a 67% chance that the natural forms will carry the alba gene.

You can use this template for any single recessive trait. I was breeding leopard geckos with double recessive traits trying to get both recessives to express in a single animal!!! Quite the challenge.
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Repot now, Steven - that's a crowded compot with big seedlings!

They can go into small pots individually at this point, and they'll do fine. Just ease the light levels up gently. They'll be a bit stressed after potting out of compot. But if you hold them any longer, you'll have an interwoven root mat that's hard to untangle without breaking roots.

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What size pot would you use for them? I don't want ALL the energy to go into root production!!!!! I was actually thinking about doing 3-5 per pot like a mini-compot of spicerianum I got.
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That is a SERIOUS compot with seedlings in serious need of their own pot.

I say there are 22 plants with 5 albas. So does the winner get the jar of jelly beans?
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Sounds like Cockatiel color genetics Gin
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I just a guessed exactly the same thing as Bruce -- great minds think alike. Sorry--. So I'll change my overall guess to 23, with five alba.
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Those guys look pretty big. You can go 3" round clay or square plastic, or better yet, 2.5" round clay, if you can find them. My seedlings love clay and I have a bit more damping off trouble in plastic.

Keep the light lower until they're a lot bigger.

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Gin, I think it is genetics in general.

I just measured the leaf span on a couple of the larger ones: 6"!!!! some with 4 and 5 sets of leaves on them already!

Thanks, Julie.

I wonder if the clay allows better wet/dry cycles and wicks away excess moisture is why?
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I'll go a little higher than the others since in my experience you always have smaller guys that are hiding under the big ones...I'm going to say 30 so, for albas...umm, less'say 7 (now that is just a guess)
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