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    Default Catt. walkeriana 'Kenny'

    First bloom of an alba form seedling I bought about a year ago. 2 flowers and I am super happy with the shape and coloration. Not sure it's that noticable in the photo but there is just the faintest blush of lavender right on the tip of the lip.
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    Nice clone I like it so much any scent Leigh?

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    Nice clone I like it so much any scent Leigh?
    Thanks Zain. Yes, it is VERY fragrant!

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    Beautiful

    Now, this is a very controversial form of walkeriana. There is also a hybrid by the name of C. Snowblind 'Kenny', which is many times sold as C. walkeriana 'Kenny'.

    Are you sure it was a seedling when you bought it, not a mericlone?

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    Good catch. Apparently it is a mericlone. And technically it's a semi-alba.
    Think I just used the term "seedling" to describe the size of the plant, not it's origin.

    Anyway, not sure about the "Snow Blind". That would make it a hybrid, no?
    All I know is I just looked it up in Orchid Wiz and don't see any reference to Snow Blind.
    I also bought a 'Edward' at the same time which is a coerulea although it shows no indication of budding yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keysguy View Post
    Good catch. Apparently it is a mericlone. And technically it's a semi-alba.
    Think I just used the term "seedling" to describe the size of the plant, not it's origin.

    Anyway, not sure about the "Snow Blind". That would make it a hybrid, no?
    All I know is I just looked it up in Orchid Wiz and don't see any reference to Snow Blind.
    I also bought a 'Edward' at the same time which is a coerulea although it shows no indication of budding yet.
    My C. walkeriana 'Kenny' turned up to be the hybrid Snowblind 'Kenny', which is an FCC-awarded clone. I found out later that the seller knew that it probably wasn't a true walkeriana. The main difference is actually the fragrance. Both the species and the hybrid Snowblind are fragrant, but in completely different ways. By the way, C. Snowblind is Cattleya Angelwalker × Cattleya walkeriana and contains 78 % walkeriana. Check out https://www.orchidroots.com/detail/1...d&tab=sum&att=

    There are several pictures of 'Kenny'. It will make you think.

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    It's lovely Leigh and I do see the lavender!

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    OK Arne, now you've got me scratching my head.

    I just read through the walkeriana description in IOSPE and see the fragrance description of "vanilla to cinnamon" and that is not what I'm getting. My wife and I both agree it's more like roses crossed with citrus. Does that jive with the hybrid?
    I also find it perplexing that AOS doesn't acknowledge the "hybrid" case in OrchidWiz.

    Maybe I need to go to my local expert, Mr. Pfahl, and see what his take on it is...........
    First bloom and we are all social distancing here so he hasn't seen this yet.

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    The way you describe the fragrance is exactly how I perceive the fragrance of the hybrid, Snow Blind. (I wrongly spelled it as one word Snowblind before, sorry.) My wife does not like the walkeriana fragrance because she finds it overwhelmingly strong while she is OK with the fragrance of the hybrid. Also, I first mounted my Snowblind and to my surprise it didn't cling to the bark as my other walkerianas did.

    Now, I think the reason why there is a confusion is probably because of a true mistake in the identity of the clone 'Kenny' early on. It could even be that it was awarded as a variety of walkeriana at the time, but I'm not sure. Regardless, it doesn't help that some well-known Cattleya breeders still believe that 'Kenny' it is a white form walkeriana and still sell it as such. I wrote and pointed it out to one of the most well-known vendors and they totally ignored me.

    Finally, my wife and I wrote about it some time ago and I think you can see why this plant kind of upsets me:
    http://arnesorchidcorner.blogspot.co...ind-kenny.html

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    Interesting. Thanks for sharing that.

    Whatever it is doesn't upset me at all because I'm enjoying it just the way it is regardless of its pedigree.

    When I get a chance to run it by Jay, I'll let you know his thoughts.

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