Wild orchids

[zainal abidin]

Geoff not only your country, here in Malaysia we also have the same problem if you didn't register (apply CITES and Phytosanitary Certificate) with Agri cultural department don't dream you can get what you one. I know it's good to protect our country from unnecessary bugs/ diseases indirectly imported from other country but it's far away from your goal. I wonder during WOC,in Singapore coming November, can we bring back the orchids without any problem, I mean custom from different Country Singapore and Malaysia?

[zainal abidin]

P2 miniature species producing small flowers I'm not sure what it is.
P1 to P3 group of 2 dendrobium species rosellum and ? + seedling of Coelogyne sps.
P4 Maybe 2 different Oberonia species.

[catttan]

Geoff not only your country, here in Malaysia we also have the same problem if you didn't register (apply CITES and Phytosanitary Certificate) with Agri cultural department don't dream you can get what you one. I know it's good to protect our country from unnecessary bugs/ diseases indirectly imported from other country but it's far away from your goal. I wonder during WOC,in Singapore coming November, can we bring back the orchids without any problem, I mean custom from different Country Singapore and Malaysia?

I'll be facing the same problem when I visit the Woc. No problem bringing in plants from Singapore in the old days but not any more.

[walingwaling]

hi Zain, your long cane Dendrobium on the ground looks like Grastidium, seeing the brown bracts on each side.

[zainal abidin]

hi Zain, your long cane Dendrobium on the ground looks like Grastidium, seeing the brown bracts on each side.

Ron thanks again for the ID lovely.

[zainal abidin]

P1Another view of Dendrobium rosellum.
P2Strange species miniature like vanda producing small flowers no idea the ID.
P3 I dont know what it is monopodial type could be anything the leaf so tough.
P4Noted Micropera species with the spike branching on the death tree

[walingwaling]

hi Zain, your small "vanda" could be a Octarrhena sp.

[Dorsetman]

Identifying orchids like this is so difficult, not just because they are not in flower, but - as far as those of us in temperate regions are concerned - they could well be species which are not normally in cultivation and hence never seen in UK/EU or USA for that matter. Apart , that is, from perhaps in places like Kew. [ If you get behind the scenes in Kew where they have about 40 greenhouses growing plants that need extra heat etc. apart from the massive structures which are the display houses open to the public ,you will see row upon row , thousand upon thousand, of green plants , hardly ever a flower in sight.] Someone once calculated that there are perhaps 500 species commonly sold by traders, and another thousand or so which can be found by scouring the shelves, as you might say . Not many out of 30-40,000 species ! There are lots of genera which are just names to most of outside the orchid countries. For that matter we have maybe 120 species native to UK - all ground orchids, and probably they are unknown,even to "orchid growers" with the exception of things like the common spotted orchid, or the early purple orchid.

The surprising thing, which maybe we can all agree upon, is that when we walk in the forestand see a plant on the ground or for that matter up in a tree, we can so often say -"that's an orchid" and be right, even when it's something we have never seen before, in a genus we ave never heard of. So something must have rubbed off on us, in our orchid love affair !

[zainal abidin]

hi Zain, your small "vanda" could be a Octarrhena sp.

Ron maybe you are right I never seen the flower and not familiar with this genus.

[zainal abidin]

Identifying orchids like this is so difficult, not just because they are not in flower, but - as far as those of us in temperate regions are concerned - they could well be species which are not normally in cultivation and hence never seen in UK/EU or USA for that matter. Apart , that is, from perhaps in places like Kew. [ If you get behind the scenes in Kew where they have about 40 greenhouses growing plants that need extra heat etc. apart from the massive structures which are the display houses open to the public ,you will see row upon row , thousand upon thousand, of green plants , hardly ever a flower in sight.] Someone once calculated that there are perhaps 500 species commonly sold by traders, and another thousand or so which can be found by scouring the shelves, as you might say . Not many out of 30-40,000 species ! There are lots of genera which are just names to most of outside the orchid countries. For that matter we have maybe 120 species native to UK - all ground orchids, and probably they are unknown,even to "orchid growers" with the exception of things like the common spotted orchid, or the early purple orchid.

The surprising thing, which maybe we can all agree upon, is that when we walk in the forestand see a plant on the ground or for that matter up in a tree, we can so often say -"that's an orchid" and be right, even when it's something we have never seen before, in a genus we ave never heard of. So something must have rubbed off on us, in our orchid love affair !

Geoff I agree with you, Borneo is not familiar with me many miniatures orchid or others orchid species I never seen before I would be very happy if somebody in our forum can give us at least the guess for the species then I can explore to confirm the genus.Thanks everybody for giving their opinion and suggestion.Zain