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    Default repeating registered crosses

    so there are a couple crosses i want to do that have already been registered, and i was wondering if registration was like a patent. can i get the plants awarded? (i being optimistic) do i have to name them the same as the cross i am duplicating?

    i a wanting to do Doritis pulcherrima x Phalaenopsis fasciata, registered as 'Red Elf' among some other crosses that don't have such cool names.
    again i am being optimistic


    jeff

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    A remake of a registered cross carries the same name, and can be made by anyone. Patents only apply to a specific clone, not the whole cross.

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    i see, that makes sense. thanks

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    Any plant you have awarded, can be named with a cultivar name. That's different from the grex or cross name.

    This thread helps explain the difference:
    http://www.rv-orchidworks.com/orchid...ead.php?t=4163

    Hope this helps!

    McJulie

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    thanks julie that faq was quite helpfull
    so in a couple years, be on the lookout for "Dpts. Red Elf 'Eikon #?' FCC/AOS"
    (now i'm REALLY being optimistic)

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    Good luck with your efforts. I have a friend who is remaking many paph crosses, and I get to help review the results. Just remember - you have to go through a fair amount of chaff to get the wheat...

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    When you remake the cross, does it matter who plays pollen parent and who plays seed parent? As long as the same two plants are involved, is the name the same either way?

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    Reciprocal crosses carry the same name.

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    They carry the same name, but the results can be quite different. The pod parent, or the one that carries the seed capsule, will contribute more heavily to the resulting flower. You definitely want to set the seed pod on a strong, healthy plant, as it is physically taxing, but you also want to set it on the plant with the flower you'd like to see more strongly expressed.

    I crossed two Catts last March in both directions, and luckily both sets of seeds have germinated. Hang around for five years and I'll show you the differences!

    McJulie

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