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This is a discussion on Bc Star Trek 'Orange' within the Cattleyas, Vandas, Dendrobiums IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; I was soooooo excited to see this plant bloom. The photo on the seller's website ...

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    Default Bc Star Trek 'Orange'

    I was soooooo excited to see this plant bloom. The photo on the seller's website was absolutely STUNNING. The actual plant is a bit less so, but it's still a cutie.

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    The biggest challenge was capturing the color properly on this one, because the name is misleading. It's not really "orange," but rather more of a brown-ish, rust-colored flower with some yellow toward the center and a deeply colored lip that I can't quite describe properly in terms of color. It leans toward purple, but with a lot of rusty brown.

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    Now that you've seen my photos of the real thing, check out the photo from the vendor's website. NOT EVEN CLOSE!!

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    Anyway, I was quite disappointed when this little guy bloomed and it looked nothing like the picture. It's also a mini, which the seller neglected to mention in the ad, and the flowers are only about 1.5" wide.

    I would probably have loved it if I had known I was buying a mini plant with teensy, rust-colored flowers, but I just can't get past the disappointment that I didn't get the eye-popping, neon orange burst of blooms that I was expecting.


    (Please pardon my clumsy measurements)

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    The reason for these drab blooms compared to the vendors website, is most probably due to less than optimum light condition. The red color is produced by the pigments called anthocyanidins (pelargonidins to be specific) that are produced in response to high light and UV light. Because you have less light, the plants do not need to produce them in those quantities to protect the tissue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halloamey View Post
    The reason for these drab blooms compared to the vendors website, is most probably due to less than optimum light condition. The red color is produced by the pigments called anthocyanidins (pelargonidins to be specific) that are produced in response to high light and UV light. Because you have less light, the plants do not need to produce them in those quantities to protect the tissue.
    Hmmm.... that's a good theory. At what point do the flowers really "produce" their color? I received the plant in bud, and it bloomed less than 2 weeks after it arrived. I had it "baking" under my grow lights during that entire time to make sure the buds wouldn't blast... in fact, I think I actually over-sunned it a bit, as the leaves began showing some signs of stress from all the light by the time the buds opened. I removed the plant from under the lights as soon as the first bud opened, and the second bud opened the very next day .... which was yesterday.

    Could I have "baked it" brown?

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    The other thing that I find odd here is that the form of the flowers seems to be somewhat different from the vendor picture. Mine are waxier than theirs appear to be, and the overall proportions just don't seem right. What's more, I can't find a SINGLE other photo of this plant anywhere on the web. The only image that comes up is that same bright orange photo over and over.

    Do I smell a rat?

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    I don't think either your plant or the vendor's photo is Bc. Star Trek. Star Trek is (C. intermedia x B. perinii), and the one awarded clone looks very much like a Brassavola hybrid, with thin sepals and petals and a round Brassavola like lip. White flowers with lavender spots on the lip. I don't know what your plant might be. Sorry.

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    There may be 2 small issues identifying the colour, 1 this might be a flower that deepens / changes colour as it ages, and 2 the colour indoors does often look different from outdoors,(often more muddy indoors) when judging plants for AOS, we take them outside to check for more accurate colour.
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    Temperature can also play a role in bloom color. Having said that, I do see what you mean with regards to the flower's form -- it does not seem right. Had this been just a Star Trek hybrid I would have assumed that we are simply seeing the variation that occurs among siblings. However, being that it is a clone, that should not be the issue.

    How long have the blooms been open? Both color and shape can change a bit as the flower matures.

    Have you tried contacting the vendor?

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    I can see why you would be disappointed expecting a bright orange, but I like the color on the lip on yours better and I always prefer a waxy bloom but that could be just my preference. If this is the first time it has bloomed sometimes the blooms are not at their best. I think we all have some orchids that have disappointed us on their first blooming as to our expectations, I try to give it 2 or 3 bloomings before I decide. Sometimes a plant that disappointed me the first time ends up being a keeper for various reasons.

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    Message the vendor...often plant nursery get visitors that pull out tags and don't put them back in their right pots. Trust me, it's way common. I went to a nursery about 3 years ago and watched some buyers grabbing plants and switching tags so they didn't have to pay as much for the good plants. I went out and let the owner know right away...but many times they do not get caught. Don't assume they are taking advantage and give them a chance to make it right for you. Most honest nurseries will make it right... And if I hadn't seen those folks doing that myself i'd think it was a "tale". I was so shocked people do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavel View Post
    How long have the blooms been open? Both color and shape can change a bit as the flower matures. Have you tried contacting the vendor?
    The blooms have been open for about 48 hours now, so theoretically they should be at their most bold color, right? I haven't contacted the vendor yet; I wanted to get the opinions of the experts here on the forum before I complained to the vendor about something that could have been my fault. I also have been buying from these guys for years, and this is the first time I've EVER been disappointed in a plant from them. Their plants have always been fantastic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Saar View Post
    I don't think either your plant or the vendor's photo is Bc. Star Trek. Star Trek is (C. intermedia x B. perinii), and the one awarded clone looks very much like a Brassavola hybrid, with thin sepals and petals and a round Brassavola like lip. White flowers with lavender spots on the lip. I don't know what your plant might be. Sorry.
    Hmmmm.... I can't find ANY Bc Star Trek photos online (besides the 'Orange' one that I have, that is). Did you find the photo in OrchidWiz? I'd be curious to see it! It sounds waaaaay different than what I have. If this isn't a Bc Star Trek, then I wonder what it IS? According to the vendor I bought it from, their Bc Star Trek 'Orange' is one of their most popular sellers, yet there are no customer photos posted anywhere on the web of this plant. It just seems suspicious to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by stateless View Post
    I can see why you would be disappointed expecting a bright orange, but I like the color on the lip on yours better and I always prefer a waxy bloom but that could be just my preference. If this is the first time it has bloomed sometimes the blooms are not at their best. I think we all have some orchids that have disappointed us on their first blooming as to our expectations, I try to give it 2 or 3 bloomings before I decide. Sometimes a plant that disappointed me the first time ends up being a keeper for various reasons.
    Ahhh, you're such an optimist, Ed!! And I, too, appreciate a waxy bloom. Unfortunately, my reaction to this one was a full-blown "ICK." I don't think I'm going to prefer it any more next time it blooms, unless it morphs into a completely different plant...

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