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Meaning of term intergenetic

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    Question Meaning of term intergenetic

    Oh orchid oracles: it seems when I see the term "intergenetic" it refers to breeding within the Oncidium alliance. Is this right, or are there "intergenetics" in other orchid alliances as well?

    Also, what is an equitant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mehera
    Oh orchid oracles: it seems when I see the term "intergenetic" it refers to breeding within the Oncidium alliance. Is this right, or are there "intergenetics" in other orchid alliances as well?

    Also, what is an equitant?
    Your assumpson is correct but there are intergenerics in other genera .
    for some reason the term intergeneric has come to mean Oncidiun alliance.

    Equitant is the small fan shaped Oncidiums they are now called Tolumnia.The word equitant is going to stay with us for a long time as its in all the books and most of us still refer to the plants as equitant,we dont like change.

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    A quote from an orchid grower :
    What are Intergeneric hybrids?
    Intergeneric hybrids consist of several different genera that are can be crossed together to create new "man made" intergeneric orchids. Cochlioda, Miltonia, Odontoglossum, Oncidium and Ada are some of the genera that are commonly used. The result of these hybrids leads to new genera names that can get pretty confusing. Some common intergeneric names are Vuylstekeara (Vuyl.), Colmanara (Colm.), Odontonia and Adaglossum. You will commonly see "mericlones" of intergenerics as they are very easy to clone and produce high quality/high quantity plants.

    equitant refers (I think) the the way in which leaves grow - similar to iris plants, the overlapping of leaves... not sure on that one.

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    ...but when we see plants that exist because of similar breeding in, say, catts (i.e. Blc., Iwan.) we don't call them "intergenetics"...right?

    And do these artificially created genera have the same nomenclature standing as the natural ones?

    Despair of ever understanding....!!!

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    No, you've got it right, Mehera!

    Intergeneric technically is any hybridization between different genera. So an Lc. Richard Mueller is technically an intergeneric in the Catt alliance (Laelia x Cattleya), just as a Dtps. Little Gem Stripes is an intergeneric in the Phalenopsis alliance (Phal. x Doritis).

    But of course, this is yet another one of those "yes" and "yes" answers that make this so confusing... Murray is right too. When you hear plain old "intergeneric," it's usually referring to a hybrid within the Onc. alliance. But an intergeneric hybrid can technically refer to any hybrid between different genera.

    If you need help with more basic stuff, check out:
    http://www.rv-orchidworks.com/orchid...naming+dummies

    It is very confusing - it's not you!

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    Mehera, you are learning fast... Hehhehehee "Oh Orchid Oracles", very funny you!
    Regarding the equitant oncidiums, I have pictures of the plants for you. (And I took the pictures of these plants only because you summoned us, Oh Orchid Oracles" ...)
    Hope the visualization of the plants will help!
    The first picture is an individual equitant oncidium plant. The second picture is a specimen-size colony of these guys! It currently perches high up in my GH and in bloom!
    Cheers. Hoa.
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    Lovely tribe taking over your greenhouse, Hoa!

    What's the story of equitants? I know little about them. They're from Central or South America, aren't they? Different culture from regular Onc's?

    Julie

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    They change the names for the equitant to Tolumnia. The culture is quite different, they love humidity, but also tend to rot, so good drainage in the media, and good air circulation are the key.

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    Red face Ahh--that's much better!

    Very helpful and interesting you guys--er--Oracles! I had looked around on the web a little for answers but was just getting more confused. I knew you folks would translate it all into the basics for little 'ole me!

    Hoa--your pictures are exactly what I needed; I can see at a glance what Diane was describing to me. Very interesting (and pretty!). I think I'm going to refer to the plants as Tolumnia; "equitant" sounds like an adjective and that's partly what was confusing me.

    Julie--thanks for the link to your "orchid naming" piece. I can tell you spent a lot of time putting that information together and I think it's just what I need. Not to say it will go down easily; I'm too old to be back in school. Glad I'm not being graded!

    Thanks all!

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    Hi Mehera,

    I was asking the same questions you were when I wrote up the orchid naming thread. That's why this forum is so great - none of us has the entire picture, but together we can do a good job of piecing together all the bits.

    Thanks for the info, Qing!

    Julie

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