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phal. polination

This is a discussion on phal. polination within the New Growers: Ask the Senior Members forums, part of the New Growers category; Hi A week ago I polinated an orchid for the first time an phal hybrid, ...

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    Hi
    A week ago I polinated an orchid for the first time an phal hybrid, i did self polination, most of the flowers dried and fell off the spike but 3 are still attached to the spike and thier pedicel is still green and some parts and getting sowlen in the photos you can see 4 flowers attached to the spike since 1 flower i didn't polinate.
    i would like to get any coments and advices about the corent condition and what should i expect to happen if all goes well

    thanks
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    Hi Gidi,

    I haven't tried the polination yet as it seems to be very difficult to germinate the seeds at a later stage in a sterile environment so I am also anxious on the answers you will get

    Good luck

    Fadi

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    With Phals what you see in your 2nd pic is normal. Now the ovary will swell and stay green for some time depending on the hybrid. I'm not sure how to tell if the pod is mature and can be removed and flasked. If you don't want to flask these yourself, try to find someone in a local orchid society or you can do a web search and find services that will do it for a fee. You may even be able to get someone on the forum who is up to the challenge.

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    APPROXIMATE SEED MATURATION STAGES FOR GREEN POD CULTURE
    Genus/Hybrid
    Approximate
    time interval
    Aerides species and hybrids 5 to 6 months
    Ansellia species and hybrids 4 to 5 months
    Brassavola nodosa and other terete Brassavola hybrids 4 to 5 months
    B. digbyana and B. glauca (Rhyncholaelia) hybrids 5 to 6 months
    Brassocattleya hybrids 4 to 6 months
    Brassolaeliocatteya hybrids 4 to 6 months
    Broughtonia hybrids 60 days

    Cattleya hybrids:

    Labiata type, white, lavender, white with colored-lip 5 to 6 months
    bifoliate 4 to 5 months
    SLC., Potinara 5 months
    Chochlioda 9 to 11 months
    Chysis 5 to 6 months
    Cirrhopetalum 4 to 6 months
    Cymbidium 9 to 12 months
    Dendrobium species and hybrids:
    Dendrobium devonianum 5 to 8 months
    Dendrobium lituifolium 5 to 9 months
    Dendrobium phalaenopsis 5 to 6 months
    Dendrobium nobile 4 to 5 months
    Dendrobium pierardii & other pendulous Dendrobium hybrids 5 months
    Dendrobium stratiotes and hybrids 6 to 7 months
    Dendrobium superbiens and hybrids 5 to 8 months
    Dendrobium superbum and hybrids 5 to 8 months
    Doritaenopsis 3 months
    Doritis pulcherrima 2 to 3 months
    Encyclia 4 to 6 months
    Epicattleya and other novelties 5 months
    Most Epidendrum hybrids 4 to 5 months
    E. pseudepidendrum 90 days
    Laelia and Schomburgkia Hybrids 4 to 5 months
    Oncidium altissimum 2 to 3 months
    Oncidium bahamense 3 to 5 months
    Oncidium bauerii 6 to 8 months
    Oncidium carthagenense 3 to 5 months
    Oncidium flexuosum 3 to 5 months
    Oncidium jonesianum 6 to 8 months
    Oncidium lanceanum 2 to 3 months
    Oncidium lucayanum 6 to 8 months
    Oncidium luridum and related Oncidium hybrids 3 to 5 months
    Oncidium maculatum 4 to 6 months
    Oncidium microchilum 2 to 3 months
    Oncidium pulchellum 4 to 6 months
    Oncidium splendidum 5 months
    Oncidium triquetrum hybrids 60 days
    Most other equitant Oncidium hybrids 4 months
    Oncidium sphacelatum and related Oncidium hybrids 2 to 3 months
    Oncidium variegatum 100 days
    Psychopsis papilio, kramerianum & Psychopsiella limminghei hybrids 3 to 5 months
    Lemboglossum 12 to 15 months
    Laelia cinnabarina 3 to 4 months
    Laelia flava 3 to 4 months
    Laelia harpophylla 4 to 5 months
    Laelia perrinii 4 to 6 months
    Laelia purpurata 4 to 6 months
    Laelia rubescens 4 to 6 months
    Laelia xanthina 4 to 5 months
    Laeliocattleya hybrids 4 to 6 months
    Maxillaria 4 to 6 months
    Mltonia and Odontoglossum hybrids 4 months
    Paphiopedilum 8 to 10 months
    Phaius 4 to 5 months
    Phalaenopsis hybrids 110 days
    Renanthera 5 to 6 months
    Rhyncholaelia 4 to 6 months
    Rhynchostylis hybrids 5 to 8 months
    Rodriquezia 3 to 5 months
    Sarcochilus 6 to 9 months
    Schomburgkia 4 to 5 months
    Sophrocattleya 3 to 5 months
    Sophronitis 2 to 3 months
    Stanhopea 4 to 7 months
    Trichopilia 4 to 5 months
    Vanda, Ascocenda and Ascocentrum hybrids 5 to 7 months
    After 65 days some Vanda seed capsules may turn slightly yellow but are not ready to be planted and should be allowed to remain on the plant the full length of time. If the capsule contains no viable seed it will usually continue to turn yellow and drop off.
    Vandopsis 5 to 6 months
    Vanilla 2 to 3 months
    Zygopetalum 7 to 9 months
    NOTE:
    The above mentioned time intervals refer to the plant carrying the seed capsules; usually the pollen parent does not influence the time interval.

    Example:
    Psychopsis papilio X Oncidium luridum - requires 100 days.
    Oncidium luridum X Psychopsis. papilio - requires 7 months.
    Unfortunately, the time required for complex intergeneric hybrids is only established after the capsule splits. One can safeguard against splitting by making 2 or more seed capsules of the same cross and immediately after the first one splits, the remaining capsules are harvested.

    In most cases, the longer a seed capsule is allowed to remain on the plant, without danger of loosing the plant or the seed capsule, the better the results obtained.

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    Thanks, Jeff.

    Cheers,
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    Looking good!

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    hi

    looking good, did you remove ?--if you did it's not going to work
    I left my phal for about 3 months and it actually bursted--you have to have extremely


    http://www.phytotechlab.com/pdf/Orch...ermination.pdf

    hope this helps

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