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Phal Help Please -salvageable?

This is a discussion on Phal Help Please -salvageable? within the New Growers: Ask the Senior Members forums, part of the New Growers category; Hello Everyone, My name is Traci and I am from New Orleans, Louisiana. I became ...

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    Hello Everyone,
    My name is Traci and I am from New Orleans, Louisiana. I became owned by my first orchid (a Phal NOID orchid) after receiving it as a gift for a major accomplishment in December of 2013. It was potted in bark. . I put it in our east window and purchased a ceramic orchid pot and just put the plastic pot inside of that. I watered it and it bloomed for 4 months. I noticed in the 3rd month the mix stayed wet so I waited two weeks to water. Once it finished blooming I bought a high quality bark, clay, perlite, sphag mix. To my horror whenI repotted on 4/19 (it looked nice and green in the plastic pot) the interior of the old mix was SLUSH and it poured out like muddy water. The interior of ALL of the roots (except for two badly damaged ones) were BLACK and some were just bare roots. In short it lost all but two sad roots. I treated with physan and repotted in the bark. It appeared to get much worse. I was told that a sick orchid (two of the six leaves are now limp) should be potted in spagh moss which I did on 4/30 with a high quality moss. The mix appears to stay wet (It is still damp from 1 week ago). At this point I want to do the sphag and bag method. but am afraid the high humidity in my area coupled with the original root and minor leaf rot could be a disaster waiting to happen. I do have water trays around the orchid. I did give the orchid some quantum orchid two weeks ago. I also cut the spike down to the plant so that it could try to focus on roots.
    My question is should I spagh and bag in maybe a glass jar or should I let things go like this in just the spagh moss in the dual aircore pot? Do I try a root hormone or seaweed extract? I feel like I have shocked the poor thing so much and I don't want to love it into its grave, but I don't want to not do something that could save it.
    Any help or advice is appreciated. I am trying to join my local orchid society, but am afraid that this poor orchid, which is sentimental to me, will not survive until then for advice. Name:  image004.jpg
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    Sorry to hear about your Phal. Roots look quite bad but the leaves are good. I would not rule out a recovery at this stage.

    1) Treat it with fungicide.
    2) Treat it with a rooting harmone (seaweed extract/KLN) next
    3) sphag and bag or glass jar with moist sphag. care the leaves don't touch the sides of the bag or jar.

    hope for the best and it should recover. let us know how it goes

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    And, if you sphag and bag it, watch closely for signs of fungus or mold. For some reason I have terrible luck with sphag and bag personally (perhaps I'm letting the leaves touch the bag, not sure). The plant still looks pretty good, in spite of the roots. If you can keep it from totally dehydrating or rotting, it will probably recover. Good luck!

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    Thank you so much for your quick reply. I am ordering the extract today after first going to my local nursery to see if they have it. I have a fish tank that I will clean and disinfect with Physan and then I will make a make shift "bag" for it.

    Regards,
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    Thank you Carol for your quick response. I am very nervous about mold and fungus as well being that I live in the unofficial mold capitol of the world it seems so I will definitely watch the phal like a hawk.
    I think the fish tank that I have should work once disinfected and then I plan to put light saran wrap over 3/4 of the top to trap in more moisture.

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    Well this orchid has gotten a new leaf! I am VERY excited and anxiously awaiting for it to grow a root. I read on the boards here that it should come shortly. Name:  rsz_rwnewleaf.jpg
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    That's great!!

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    this is good news,.. congratulations traci,..

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    Congrats on your save! Looks like your quick action made the difference. Glad to see the leaf!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traci View Post
    Well this orchid has gotten a new leaf! I am VERY excited and anxiously awaiting for it to grow a root. I read on the boards here that it should come shortly. Name:  rsz_rwnewleaf.jpg
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    Good fortune has smiled upon your orchid Traci! Great to see, keep us posted... (good pic's too)

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