Ascocentrum Miniatum which is which?

[boyong]

This is an ascocentrum given to me by a friend he bought from bangkok sometime end of July of this year and he saide that this is an ascocentrum miniatum



and this one i got last sunday at a flea market that sells philippine orchid species, the trader said that this is also an ascocentrum miniatum. the plant is very small compared to my ascocentrum aurantiacum, the plant is just about 6 inches wide edge to edge of the leaves.





can someone help me ID this two species

[walingwaling]

hi boy,
first pix would be miniatum and second pix aurantiacum.
there were a few discussions about those 2, just search for it.

[boyong]

thanks ron

will search for that discussion

[delphiguy]

The first one could also be garayi... anyways Boy, when a seller from the flea market
gives you a miniatum, you have to be cautious as minatum doesnt occur in the Philippines.