A long time ago I read that some of the specie Phals . do not produce keikis that grow roots . I have an old one violacea malaya that would produce a keiki kind of, 2 leaves but never any roots , it would just hang around , year before last it produced one and I applied a keiki root hormone to it it sat and sat then finally grew roots this year . Beginning to think there might be something to what I read . Gin