I understand the bad intentions of those sellers, of course.
but...
@ Derek, i think i didn't get the real meaning of your reply.
did you mean, maybe ice is good just to get them bloom, but not for the whole year?
Here they don't reccomend ice for watering, but to get the cool temp around the roots to get blooms.
We don't have the good altitude and low temp that is convenient for cymb in my city
Is it worth, what do you all think?





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