I am *so* glad Louis called them Paphs. Although I'm getting better at telling them apart, I do mix them up. Glad it's not just me! I'll try using the "double wall" technique to distinguish them. BTW, I'm mostly speaking of photos when I say I mix them up--I find the foliage (seldom visible in photos) very different in Paphs & Phrags.

Cheers,

Rob