ok, first of all thank you very much for those lovely comments everyone and secondly just got an update from a senior member, i was told that as long as its a susan fuchs and pileatum is used in the cross (irrespective of which one is the pollen or seed) it would still be ctsm penang BUT the confusing part is if you were to run the search where you key in pileatum as seed parent and susan fuchs as pollen parent, you will end up with no match in the RHS.









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