Unusual Cattleya lueddemanniana

[Nataliwind]

Fragrant. Great, strong scent.

[eorchids]

Thank you for the new photos. I love the last ones.
I'll send the column photos to Mauro.
Do you got brown/violet spots all along the new leave which then disappear in a few months after blooming ? It's not characteristic but typical for luedde, as for lawrenceana.
You can see them at the top of the leave :



I have this famous cultivar of lueddemanniana, 'Cerro Verde'. Many think that it is a hybrid (with warscewiczii ?) because of its wide lip, small white streaks...

[Nataliwind]

Thank you for the new photos. I love the last ones.
I'll send the column photos to Mauro.
Do you got brown/violet spots all along the new leave which then disappear in a few months after blooming ? It's not characteristic but typical for luedde, as for lawrenceana.
You can see them at the top of the leave :

I have this famous cultivar of lueddemanniana, 'Cerro Verde'. Many think that it is a hybrid (with warscewiczii ?) because of its wide lip, small white streaks...
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Thank you Eric!
I am glad you like the last photos. I took them just for you . (As I said, I ususally photograph my orchids outside).
You have a wonderful plant, I like it very much! Really wonderful. Just gorgeous. I am not a professional grower and I cannot say if it is a hybrid; it looks like species to me. There are some lueddemanniana clones with not very clear white streaks.
About spots. Yes, I get those purple spots exactly as you described. I always thought that the spots appear because of strong sunshine. Some other Catts develop those spots, too. I have a nice C.lueddemanniana 'Maruja' x 'Oscura' which gets a lot of purple\violet spots on its leaves and which pseudobulbs get reddish and turn green in a few months. I will try to find a picture.
I have a C.lawrenceana with almost purple pseudobulbs.

[eorchids]

Mauro thinks that your plant could be a Cattleya Gravesiana (mossiae x lueddemanniana). He told me : "this is only my opinion" and his explanations are : since the midlobe of the lip is not very developed in lueddemanniana, the general shape is a rectangle (For your plant it is most clearly a square. It is the same for my 'Cerro Verde'). In addition, Cattleya Gravesiana often retains the shape of the lueddemanniana column.





Some Cattleya Gravesiana are taken for lueddemanniana, some others for mossiae (as probably Cat. mossiae 'Willowbrook').

I hope this help you.

[Nataliwind]

Thank you Eric for the interesting explanation, and thanks to your friend, too. It makes sense. I remember now, there were a few Gravesianas on the same bench\table where I found my C. lueddemanniana.
I have C. mossiae 'Willowbrook', too, and I read discussions about its origin etc. I also heard that the Willowbrook was DNA tested as mossiae species.
here is my 'Willowbrook' (the only picture without direct sunshine is this one, but flower was already withering )

[cdayinflorida]

All lovely Natali. Interesting discussion!

[Nataliwind]

Thank you Cathy. And thanks to Eric and Mauro who contributed so much to this discussion.
Two more pictures from yesterday to say bye

[eorchids]

That's great. Thanks for the new pictures.

[Nataliwind]

My plant is in bloom again. Three flowers on spike. Very strong scent of lilac.

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[Mikefallen13]

Wow! That is beautiful!!