many thanks Bill!!!In the near spring when I use full force and strength to get them out the damn pot, cutting my fingers and cricking my neck lol i will as every year cut away the dead and split them 2-3 pbs each. Each individual clump will then sprout 4-6 new shoots and deliver 2-3 inflorescences later in the year after strong dose of sun fert and water. many friends, work colleagues report back confirming success. They must be from a strong genetic parentage, despise cool temps but love sun. These only get morning to early afternoon rays and their need for pot bound culture is essential.

Did try the big pot/big specimen theory = not good and no blooms. Tried terracotta aswell = not good, broke the pot with force. Managed to source a small supply of 'forbid 4F miticide' bayer product from USA last april time and never had a spider mite infestation since, across all my indoor plants the cyms always get attacked first and notice the stippling damage early on. Brainwashed, gullible or not I have also sprayed monthly with PV+ after using forbid once but cannot prove its worth.

Anyway back to my original point!

If you, Bill or BD and Cathy know your import rules/ regulations etc etc and can have plants imported your all welcome to a clump/ division in april time. I only keep one clump from each and pass others on but never posted them abroad before. No cost or you can send postage fee after you receipt them if you like by paypal? I will inspect them carefully beforehand for cross infection. Just a thought! I would dread to bin them. These two have been cultured in temp range of 15oc min - 32oc. max.