Well the third had to be posted to show the realistic color, which is so much darker than you'd believe from the first two.

My question was more, which view of a Paph. is a better perspective for photographing. Dorsals are notorious for not standing erect, and I haven't gotten Jason's pencil trick to work. I ideally want to see both an upright dorsal in a shot, and the form of the stigma. But if you can't get both, which do you go for?

Julie