Yeah, those are a couple of 'em. I started looking through the CymbidiumGate crossings a little while ago, as these span new and old worlds (Cymbidium complex - generally Asia; Zygo complex - South America). Then I tried to find pictures of these supposed crossings. Nothing! Then I got frustrated and stopped looking for a little while.

Grrrr.

You don't happen to have any photographic or real-life proof of Cyrtellia or Grammatopodium?