Wild color orchids?

[PaphMadMan]

Thanks Kirk for the info. I hope I won't be disappointed either. I do like the appearance that is typically shown more so than the reverse so I will see what I will get.
I guess regarding the name and it not being registered is why Phal 'Magic Art' is in quotes and not written as the conventional Phal Magic Art.

So are you saying that Phalaenopsis 'Magic Art' is different from Phalaenopsis Magic Art?

'Magic Art' is legitimately in single quotes because it is an asexually propagated cultivar, but the grex is undisclosed (and possibly unregistered or unknown), so Phal 'Magic Art' is perfectly correct as long as it was not previously given some other cultivar name, and as complete as possible under the circumstances. Phal Magic Art is a registered grex, but being mostly Phal stuartiana and Phal lueddemanniana would look nothing like this. Phal 'Magic Art' is not Phal Magic Art, but there is nothing wrong with that.

[sciencegal]

So if a name is not in quotes it is a registered grex and if it is in quotes it is not registered?
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[Azizan]

So if a name is not in quotes it is a registered grex and if it is in quotes it is not registered?
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I think what Kirk meant was the name that is in single quotes are cultivar name, Phal 'Magic Art'. 'Magic Art' here is the cultivar name for the Phal that Traci just purchase. But note that Phal 'Magic Art' has no registered grex name. Perhaps the vendor did not reveal it to the seller.

However, Phal Magic Art also existed, in this case the Magic Art without single quote stands for the registered grex name. Phal Magic Art BlueNanta.

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To add, hybrids that has Phalaenopsis speciosa blood may contribute to the wild colour type Phalaenopsis I guess.

[PaphMadMan]

So if a name is not in quotes it is a registered grex and if it is in quotes it is not registered?
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A registered grex name is never in quotes. A cultivar name is always in single quotes. At least, those things are true if we're using correct notation.

We often see names like Phalaenopsis Kenneth Schubert 'Orchidglade' where there is both a registered grex name (Kenneth Schubert = pulcherrima x violacea) and a cultivar name like 'Orchidglade' in single quotes. The grex name Kenneth Schubert is for all plants from pulcherrima x violacea, or violacea x pulcherrima, or Kenneth Schubert x Kenneth Schubert. The cultivar name 'Orchidglade' applies to one particular plant of Phal Kenneth Schubert and all plants asexually propagated from it, clones or keikis etc.

In this case we don't know what the grex name is, or if there is one, but we can still have a cultivar name like Phalaenopsis 'Magic Art'. Essentially the grex name is left blank, but that doesn't change the fact that this particular plant called 'Magic Art' that was propagated. There also happens to be a registered grex called Phalaenopsis Magic Art, but Phalaenopsis 'Magic Art' is not part of that grex.

[sciencegal]

Thanks, Kirk and Azizan. That was confusing but is now is more than clear. Traci - I wonder if you could ask the seller if they know more about it? I can't find any information or mention of wild color phals.

[sciencegal]

Strange coincidence. I ordered myself a Christmas present - 10 phals, growers choice in spike that were too good a price to pass up. They came from Hawaii 2 day air in perfect shape. I just unpacked them and found that Phal 'Magic Art' is one of them.

[Traci]

That is a strange coincidence indeed. Let me know what color you get when it blooms. I will let you know if I hear from the seller of they can tell me any more about 'magic art'.
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[Azizan]

Strange coincidence. I ordered myself a Christmas present - 10 phals, growers choice in spike that were too good a price to pass up. They came from Hawaii 2 day air in perfect shape. I just unpacked them and found that Phal 'Magic Art' is one of them.

We shall witness the "wildness" of this Phalaenopsis!

[Traci]

We shall witness the "wildness" of this Phalaenopsis!

Hehehe. I emailed the vendor and received a reply back from a customer service rep. She said that she didn't have the answer and the owner who is a horticulturist won't be in until next week but she will leave the message for him to answer If he can.

[sciencegal]

I have watched their videos and he seems to be pretty knowledgeable. Mine has very purple undersides to the leaves. The spike is very short - 5 inches - so it will be a few months until I know on this one.