Miltassia Olemec 'Kona'

[Cjcorner]

My Miltassia is blooming again....although this time two of the flowers turned abit weird. I think this will be the last spike for awhile. With this one though you never know.

[margo]

Very pretty! Have you changed her place while in spike? I noticed when I do that the flowers doesn't look right... Or when I buy something spiking the buds either blast or the blooms are... weird...

[navyderek]

Boy..I like the Miltassia Olmecs. How many times does it bloom for you a year?

[Brutal_Dreamer]

Gorgeous! Love the shot from behind the blooms too. You have such good tastes Connie.

Cheers,
BD

[tdwin1453]

Here this post asks more a simply question than to provide information to be thought.

The recent images of Miltassia Olmec 'Kona'--or, perhaps, the better well-known cultivar 'Konno' HCC/AOS (?)--have reminded me of a larger project I have been working on in the background while enjoying this forum over the past week or so. Inasmuch as these images have been beautiful, they have been timely as well. For these images of Miltassia Olmec remind that I need to do something with, at least, part of my larger inquiry I have been focusing on recently. Therefore, my goal, then, is acquire a better understanding of Miltassia Olmec first. The rest of what I am working is yet to come. . . .

My motivation for this study and query on Miltassia Olmec is twofold: (1) It is clearly a beautiful orchid in itself, as evident by the images presented, and clearly highly regarded. In addition, (2) it is important with regard to another plant that has caught my eye, namely Aliceara Hilo Ablaze 'Hilo Gold' HCC/AOS. The latter point (2) has led me to an exploration of the warmth tolerance of Aliceara in general, my larger project. More on that later, however . . . . This Aliceara is evidently the result from the following progeny: Miltassia Olmec X Oncidium Mantinii (syn. Oncidium pectorale).

Thus, let’s look briefly more at Miltassia Olmec, for it is the lens form which I am currently pondering Aliceara by and large. It, too, is an obstacle upon which I cannot seem to avoid in my current research.

For only one “generation” have I been able to trace Miltassia Olmec 'Konno'. It is the "complex" of two hybrids: Brassia Rex X Miltonia Minas Gerais. In turn, Brassia Rex is easy to resolve to the species involved in its breeding. They are specifically Brassia arcuigera X Brassia gireoudiana, where Brassia arcuigera is the synonym for Brassia longissima, the species name I see more often.

Logically the next step here is to resolve the hybrid Miltonia Minas Gerais down to the species involved. Here is where I am either overlooking something obvious or simply not obtaining results in my efforts. I note three observations about Miltonia Minas Gerais:

(1) It is involved in the progeny of many “simple” Miltonia or complex intergeneric hybrids, i.e. Miltassia Olmec ‘Konno’ HCC/AOS, as the results from a given search show nothing but several crosses utilizing Miltonia Minas Gerais;

(2) The words “Minas Gerais” refer to a political state in Brazil that is consistent with the habitat of many of the warmer tolerant Miltonia species;

(3) The progeny of Miltonia Minas Gerais are not ready available in any given search I have been able to undertake.

Because of these results, other than speculatively, I cannot say much about the warmth tolerance of Miltassia Olmec ‘Konno’ HCC/AOS. The Brassia end of the cross (Brassia arcuigera X Brassia gireoudiana) is warm-growing on both sides of the species. There are no real conclusions, yet, to the growing conditions of Aliceara Hilo Ablaze 'Hilo Gold' HCC/AOS, thus, the focal point of my inquiry about the warmth tolerance of Aliceara.

At this point, I appeal to the forum for help! Does anyone know the parents of Miltonia Minas Gerais ‘Konno’ HCC/AOS?

To unlock this unknown hybrid, reduce it down to its species; I could, then, say something more about the temperature preferences of Miltassia Olmec ‘Konno’ HCC/AOS. That would be a starting point. With that knowledge, in turn, as the “botanical genealogy” is presented here reduced to all species except those of Miltonia Minas Gerais, I could more effectively determine if Aliceara Hilo Ablaze 'Hilo Gold' HCC/AOS is capable of warm tolerance like another orchid in the same genus is, namely the noteworthy Aliceara Sunday Best ‘Muffin’ AM/AOS. The latter Aliceara does well in Virginia Beach, VA, (USA), despite it generally being regarded that all Aliceara tend to favor cool-intermediate growing conditions. Aliceara Sunday Best ‘Muffin’ AM/AOS was the first member of the Oncidium Alliance to re-bloom in my second collection of orchids. Therefore, as I appeal again for assistance, the hinge to this unresolved research rests on the progeny of Miltassia Olmec ‘Konno’. . . .

I have posted two new images from online "gray-literature": Images 1 are of Miltassia Olmec ‘Konno’ HCC/AOS. (This image is not the greatest, but I include them to show consistency overall.) Image 2 is Aliceara Hilo Ablaze 'Hilo Gold' HCC/AOS.

Thanks for reading. And many thanks for sharing the images! To my surprise, I thought: "How timely!"
Tim

[cindiras]

I popped over to my laptop and checked out Milt. Minas Gerais on Orchidwiz. Parents are Milt. Anne Warne and Milt Candida. Milt candida is a species from southeast Brazil growing in moist conditions at @ 1650-1950 feet in Minas Gerais.
Milt Anne Warne is from seed parent Milt Bluntii, pollen parent Milt spectabilis. Milt Bluntii seed parent is Milt. spectabilis, pollen parent Milt. clowesii. Seems all the species that this cross is bred from, come from the same area of southeast Brazil. Some from higher altitudes in the mountains.

[navyderek]

That is how its done Cindy!!! Nice research.... :-D

And I agree with Bruce, Connie the shots from behind are sweet.

[Cjcorner]

My olemec blooms regularly. It will throw off several growths and then they will mature and bloom, often one by one. It's a huge plant I found at a garage sale. It gets watered when I remember to go into the back room and water the oncids. This one gets full western exposure as my hubby keeps opening the shades all the way. lol It's a little freckled, but healthy. I have a division out on the front porch...it did great during the hottest temps this summer (up to 100+), but now that it's getting cool in the evenings (down to high 50's a few days ago) there are leaves yellowing. Guess i'll be bringing the outdoor oncids in shortly.
I am glad you all enjoyed the shots from behind as much as I did....thanks for the lovely complements.

[walingwaling]

totally agree to the back shots, interesting pattern!